America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem

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  1. ShadowX

    ShadowX Well-Known Member

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    You mean like punishing white people today for discrimination, racism and slavery committed by other white people from years ago?

    Why is that okay but blaming all blacks for violent crime committed by blacks is not?
     
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    If you can refute my argument then do so. Otherwise keep it moving.
     
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    nobody should take deniers seriously.
     
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    By your attitude we know how you feel. I can tell you as somebody who has taught in the inner-city and lived in the inner-city that the number of kids going to colleges and being successful is much greater than it was when I began teaching. The middle class is growing for minorities. But they have to fight the bigotry where people lump “Inner city” people as inferior and they don’t see the successes. Minorities have to deal with bigotry every single day and pretending that they don’t is ridiculous
     
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    Done so many times.
    On the wiki page about redlining.
     
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    World history and USA history refutes your argument.
     
  7. Renee

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    How are white people being punished? What are they being denied? Are they required to sit in the back of the bus? Are they denied id admission to colleges? Are they denied seats on the courts?
     
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    Are you alluding to Affirmative Action? As many people have pointed out, white women benefit from it. Therefore, by extension, so do white men. You are not oppressed. You are not a victim. Even if you were, life is too short for hate. Smile and feel good will towards men and women of all races.

     
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    From earlier in the thread:

    I'll give you a few examples of systemic, institutionalized government sponsored racism against whites.

    The federal government provides grants and loans to minority... excuse me... non-white farmers that I can't get access to because the color of my skin is white.

    The federal government's SBA through program 8A provides grants, loans and government contracts to minorit... non-whites that I can't get access to or have to jump through a bunch of hoop NO other race has to jump through to get access to those funds.

    The federal government provides tax credits to businesses who use minori.. non-white contractors. A benefit that as a white contractor I don't provide because the color of my skin is white. Making it FAR less likely for me to get that job.

    And we haven't even BEGUN to talk about the DOZENS of state programs that discriminate against white people. Such as the $3BILLION dollars of taxpayer funds that NY designated for mino... non-white small business owners that I can't get access to or have to jump through hoops because the color of my skin is white.

    The left has created an ENTIRE vernacular which makes it acceptable to discriminate against white people. They use the terms minority and majority instead of non-white and white to make their policies sound less racist. They use terms such as socially or historically disadvantaged which is nothing more than a code word for non-white, non-male, non-Christian, non-straight people. ALL illegal categories to discriminate against.

    But all that's cool apparently because white people today deserve to be punished because of what white people years ago did. But God forbid I even SUGGEST discriminating against blacks to reduce our ABSURDLY high violent crime rate today.
     
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    Gosh dude - Ive been white for almost 60 years now, I have yet to be discriminated against in any way for my skin color ... and I most certainly have never been "punished" for it.

    Maybe you have some other negative characteristic that makes you feel discriminated against and you are mistaking it for skin color. Maybe you should start by looking at the incredibly racist remark of blaming all black American Citizens for the deeds of others.
     
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    Or maybe I’m just white. Read above.
     
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    You don’t seem to understand ..you act as though white people have no grant options. They have had them for generations. They still have access to tons of grants. Blacks and women have been handicapped for generations being denied what white men took for granted ....look at handicap bathrooms . Do you think it’s unfair that there is a special toilet for handicapped people? There are still plenty for everyone else.
    The fact that you can’t get a business loan tells me one thing...either they don’t think you’re able to pay it back or you’re not doing all the research available to you . Not everyone qualifies for loans...black or white
    You seem to think racism just disappeared when they passed laws ...obviously you see yourself as a victim when in fact you have options you always had but you just get upset that people who been oppressed for hundreds of years are getting extra help to level the playing field
     
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    So you're mad because the DEFAULT position of government programs favoring white applicants is now 95% of the budget and not 100%. Gosh - poor little white child, he only has a 80% higher history of getting Federal and State money and grants than minorities. Waaa!

    And for that he thinks it fair to blame some black fireman in Seattle for what a black guy in Chicago does. Waaaa! Poor guy is actually crying like a child about that injustice. WTF.
     
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    Waaa! I'm a white American and I have every advantage in the world, but that's not enough because some minority person has access to 3% of the money that I don't ... never mind I'm more likely receive the other 97% ... Waaaa!

    Your posts read like the spoiled child who has ten toys but cries because the next kid only has one toy but it's one he doesn't have.
     
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    So is it constitutional to discriminate based upon race or not? I mean I’m cool with it if it is. I don’t think your side will be though.
     
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    No YOU don’t understand. Either it is constitutional to discriminate based upon race or it is not. You can’t say that it’s constitutional to discriminate against one race because their race had it good for large majority of history but it’s not okay to discriminate against another race because they’re disproportionately committing the violent crime in this country TODAY.

    Either it is constitutional to discriminate based upon race or it is not. Which one is it?
     
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    Funny that’s how I feel about black people when I hear them cry about discrimination that didn’t even happen to them.
     
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    tRUMP has had 2 nominees to the USSC. Both white males. Never considered any other type of human.
    That's how bad white and males have it in this country. We are a persecuted group.
    And guess why he inserted those white males? To take rights away from women.
     
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    So is it constitutional to discriminate based upon race and sex or not?

    And you’ll be happy to know Trump will put Amy Barrett on the court to replace Ginsburg. And you better pray that Breyer at 80 years old makes it.
     
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    The problem is that many White People are still behaving like "racists," Black People are still behaving like "slaves" and nobody is being honest, direct or faithful with the Truth of Real World History. That's THE problem here. Now, here's how that problem gets solved: Black Owned Enterprise.

    In the United States of America, capital talks and BS walks. Black People, have a large enough contribution to national GDP to build their own Industry and then link it with the enormous potential for growth in Africa. Black People, won't do this. They refuse to come together to solve their own problems. We sit around waiting for some White Savior to hand out something that solves our problems. Meanwhile, White People, toss job applications in the trash can when a Black Person applies for a job (I've witnessed it happen with my own eyes once before, so don't tell me it does not happen). United Airlines, right now, has a serious problem with its Black Pilots. United Airlines has treated its Black Pilots much differently than their White Pilot counterparts (I've witnessed this with my own eyes, so don't tell me that it does not happen). In the Enterprise Technology Sector, once again, I know from first hand experience that Black People are discriminated against merely because they are Black, not because they were not qualified for a job or advancement. This is WHY you do not see anywhere near the kind of Executive level representation among Qualified Blacks in Enterprise Technology Companies (I've witness this too, first hand as well, so don't tell me it does not exist).

    Bottom line. Black People, can solve ALL these problems by taking their $3.4 Trillion and beginning the process of developing Industry they own, they manage and that they control. They can replicate every successful Business Model in existence including those I mention above and many more. They can command the billions in revenues annually. They can design the business ethic with which they go about running their enterprises. The problem is that my Black People are too damn focuses on living in a Paradigm that s-h-i-t-s on them and then tells them that the sh-i-t someone shovels in their face is good for them. That they should be happy that someone continues to s-h-i-t- in their face.

    Black People, in the aggregate, just cannot see themselves running the show and that irritates me to no end, because we ran the entire world for THOUSANDS of years before anyone else got here. So, I am sick and tired (fed the f-u-c-k up) with Black People who would rather talk about and blame "Whitey" as opposed to building our own World.

    F-u-c-k-i-n-g frustrating as hell!

    Black People: Get your collective s-h-i-t together. We have TRILLIONS of reason WHY we should get our s-h-i-t together. There is no excuse for why one single Black Person should not have far more than just a job, but a Professional Career, a thriving Family and a Life. None, whatsoever. Stop sitting around talking about what the White Man should or should not do. F-U-C-K THAT! Do what you KNOW is required to build a future and you WILL have one unto yourselves.

    Go BUILD something!!! S-h-i-t.

    Excuse me, Moderator. This topic inflames me.
     
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    Tell me where white people are denied entrance. Tell me where white people are discriminated against. Tell me where your race denies your grants and loans Again I go back to the analogy are you discriminated against because there is a handicapped toilet? Why does it bother you that minorities get a little extra help....you’re not losing anything
     
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    This is such an example of both sanctioned and unacknowledges racism
     
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    It happens every damn day of their lives....And the legacy of segregation where blacks were told they were inferior , for hundreds of years just doesn’t go away in a generation
     
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    You are not denied any of those things, as everyone keeps pointing out.
     
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    You are not discriminated against based on your race.
     

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