America respected again, Thanks Trump.

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  1. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

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    The OPer's basis for his questionable thread title was this.

    That's almost funny.

    Trump's supporters often complain that those who are critical of Trump's performance are trying to do an end run around the 2016 election. That Trump's detractors are attempting a coup, the removal of a duly elected President. Ignoring the absurdity of that assertion for the moment, have they ever considered that Trump may be responsible for the multitude of questions regarding his competence?

    Is Trump doing exactly what Putin wants him to do? That is a very good question considering the fact that the White House has been shackled during the 37 months Trump has sat in the Oval Office. Despite his party having control of both the House and Senate for the first two years of his Presidency, Trump has accomplished little or nothing. He has moved from controversy and scandal to new controversies and scandals throughout his entire administration.

    He is the least popular President in modern American history, his staff has an historical turnover rate and is now filled with sycophants, and there are even questions about his mental stability.

    Trump's close ties with Netanyahu while unilaterally proclaiming Jerusalem the capital of Israel has removed the U.S. from Middle East talks because the Arab republics do not trust him. Neither do Great Britain or France because Trump is unpredictable and unreliable. The U.S. has been replaced by Russia.

    Trump removed the U.S. from the Paris Accord to which there are 197 signatories.

    Because it was signed during the Obama administration, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA which permanently barred Iran from making a nuke. He has been urging the Iranian leaders to agree to talks for a new agreement that permanently bars Iran from making a nuke. In the meantime, Iran has followed Trump's example and is in violation of the JCPOA. Our allies are trying desperately to save the agreement. Trump is threatening our allies' for their intentions.

    Trump has removed the U.S. from lucrative trade agreements, TPP, NAFTA, and has not signed one major trade agreement.

    Much to Putin's delight, Trump has weakened NATO with his constant jabs at our NATO partners. The recent G-7 conference went nearly as bad as last year's G-7 conference and there was no common statement of cooperation.

    Trump has threatened the vibrant American economy. Because of his trade war with China, even he is concerned about a possible recession as consumer confidence is dropping along with the manufacturing index. Trump's harsh tariffs cause inflation, and inflation causes recession. To illustrate all of this, the stock market has been treading water since January 2018. On Jan. 29, 2018, the Dow stood at 26,439. Right now the Dow is at 26,917.A gain of only 478 points in 20 months. It was below Jan. 2018 figure for most of August due to Trump's tweets.

    Questions about Trump's mental acuity have surfaced recently. Using a five day old NWS in predicting a hurricane's path Trump declared that Alabama "will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated." Everyone not named Trump knew the hurricane was going to turn north, missing Alabama by hundreds of miles. For a solid week Trump insisted that his faulty weather forecast was accurate.

    When that died out Trump said he was totally responsible for inviting the terrorist sponsors of Al Qaeda to a meeting at Camp David five days before the 9/11 anniversary.

    One day after Robert Mueller appeared before Congress to provide testimony regarding Russian intervention in our 2016 election on his behalf, Trump called the president of Ukraine to ask him to intervene in our 2020 election on his behalf!

    Is Trump doing exactly what Putin wants him to do?
     
  2. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

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    That is not the issue, and you know it.
     
  3. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Got to be more specific - that was part of the issue that I was discussing with another poster - no idea what you are referring to.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many of your points are fine - but your "doing what Putin wants him to do" comment makes no sense on any objective basis. Many actions of any President have the potential of benefiting Russia - or any number of other nations in some way.

    The real nonsense of this statement though is the implied assumption that Putin has some major influence within the Establishment in this nation. This is a vast misunderstanding of who the power brokers in our system are - Do you think Trump answer's to no one ?

    Think again
     
  5. Sandy Shanks

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    I didn't make that statement. You did.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you not understand the phrase "Implied Assumption" ? That Putin has influence over Trump is exactly what you implied.

    Are you trying to run from your own words now ? - would you like me to quote you ?
     
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    "I could totally refute that, but, but ... I won't ... for ... reasons" <--- that's how your post comes across. I've seen more convincing arguments on elementary school playgrounds.
     

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