American terror plots since 9/11: Muslims vs. Non-Muslims

If you think that every Muslim in the world agrees with the Religious Right, then well I have some oceanfront property to sell you. I have a friend that is very progressive in his views, but alas, any amount of fact, logic, or evidence is not necessary in this thread, as you have shown over and over again.

 

Please post any thoughts you have on curtailing their efforts to kill. You most certainly do make excuses for their efforts, what else should I assume?

 

Never said he was

 

Sure and I know a lot of Bible belt christians that couldn't care less about gays or what they do. We are talking about in general. And if you want me to find articles about what it's like to be gay in Muslim countries, I'd be happy to give you a lot of reading.

FYI - it's a lot worse then not being able to bring your gay girlfriend to the prom.

 

I second that.

 

Let the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, and local police do their job. It's a waste of time to just look at every single person that appears to be Muslim.

 

From Wiki

Agent,
Go ahead and Reconcile that. I know your mind is hurting a bit. It's cognitive dissonance. At some point you are going to have to reconcile your beliefs.

 

I missed this one. Please stop with your lying, no one has banned building mosques, so stopping making that (*)(*)(*)(*) up

 

When you make such a blanket statement, you are open to someone pointing out how Islam is not a hive mind. It's best to just not make such an ignorant statement.

 

So basically, Turkey, which is considered a moderate Muslim country STILL, STILL, STILL has harsher views towards homosexuality then in the bible belt.
Go figure.

 

Please review the Wiki article that I posted and get back to me. Is it a blanket statement that most Islamic countries have the death penalty for Homosexuals. Way to support the losing team man.

 

When did they say they were going to look at every muslim, please post your evidence of that?

The authorities are doing their job, and as soon as congress gets done with their investigations, it will have a broader aspect of who to focus on. Please zero, no more excuses

 

Great exposure of the excuse makers. Unbelievable hypocrites

 

In Australia, just afew years ago, two Christian Ministers were taken to court for alledegdly preachng hatred against Muslims.They were convicted but I a can't remember if they appealed.

It seemed a very trivial matter to me and was probably a case of the Muslim Community 'showingy its muscle' aided an abetted by the (PC) Legal Beagles in our society.

 

Homosexuality is ILLEGAL in every Muslim country except Turkey. So you are flat out wrong by saying i'm making a general statement about muslims. It's not accepted, it's illegal. Many times punishable by death, if not death then prison.

You support this? It's clear man. It's not a general statement. It's the practice of the religion and the beliefs.

Please now, go ahead and try to reconcile your beliefs again.

 

So just to clarify. In general you are against the RR because of their views towards homosexuals, but you are not against Islam which in all other countries besides turkey believes that gays should be either killed or locked up.

You have lost touch. That's it. You've lost touch and you're not thinking clearly.

How can you possibly reconcile this proof right here.

 

Agent,

I know i'm beating a dead horse and beating your brain and I will leave you alone, but I just can't help myself. Here's another "General" statement about Muslims. This was a survey of 1000 non Muslims in the UK and 500 Muslims on various views

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/may/07/gallup-muslims-islam
Homosexuality is morally acceptable:

General Public 58%, Muslims 0.

Abortion is morally acceptable

General Public 55%, Muslims 5%

Viewing pornography is morally acceptable

General Public 35%, Muslims 1%

Sex between an unmarried man and woman is morally acceptable

General Public 82%, Muslims 3%

Married men and women having an affair is morally acceptable

General Public 15%, Muslims 2%

Suicide is morally acceptable

General Public 32%, Muslims 2%

The death penalty is morally acceptable

General Public 50%, Muslims 63%


Out of 500 Muslims polled 0 said Homosexuality is morally acceptable.

So I must apologize because clearly you are educated about Islam and I know nothing and was just making 'blanket' statements.

have fun with your opposing and conflicting opinions. Hopefully you will be able to some how work those out. I don't expect an apology (although it would be nice) I would much rather you open your mind a bit and understand what is happening and how you are arriving at your viewpoints

 

People are afraid of what is different and they also fear what they cant understand thats why after 9/11 when people where scared trying to find a outlet they were lead so easily to ALL muslims are terrorists and they were spoon fed these lies but since we were afraid and ready for revenge we retaliated towards the closes thing we had to our enemy sadly it turned out to be inncocent american immigrants and citizens i'm not wise not by a long shot i dont have time on my side im only 16 but i have history as a guide and looking back HUMANITY as a whole likes to find a common enemy in every situation possible look at what happend after pearl harbor we cant let our fears and prejudices guide our decision making
i didnt make my point as clear as i could have but this is my first forum post

P.S. rationalizing with a survey doesnt make it any more excusable if i went to a tea party convention and serveyed who thinks obama is a good president what do you think i would get??

 

Seriously, do you believe that? That's like saying I bought a Honda Car and have been trying to destroy it since I bought it. Why would anyone destroy things they bought? Racist hatred has blinded you to reality. Intelligent people don't spend hard earned money to buy stuff just to destroy it. That's just whacked out.

 

Am I missing something here? If we go by the report in the OP, they break down the different threats and such, each group representing something else, as far as I can tell 45 was the single highest number represented by one group. If the report itself saw fit to separate the groups, how is it acceptable to then lump them together to increase the numbers to exceed the volume of Muslim plots? This report shows that Muslims are in fact the most dangerous group in America.

Why are black supremacists considered cultists as well, but white supremacists aren't? Seems a bit odd, Shouldn't the KKK be considered a cult? They use religion and are obviously outcast from the mainstream, so why do black supremacists get to be classified as a cult? What cult is that anyway? It wouldn't be the Nation of Islam would it?

 

At this point, hold a congressional hearing.

 

I missed the 7 times. Did you include the fact that the report is written by the Muslim Public Affairs Council?

 

Well, their is the glaring difference in # of lives lost in the last 20 years. Here in the US its 5-6 for the Christians and thousands for the Muslims. Grab hold of some reality if you can.

 

Of course your questions are entirely rhetorical. I think most everyone with even a shred of objectivity and common sense knows full that the Left's politically correct take on racism and bigotry is in itself the very embodiment of both. They'll never be able see that obvious fact. It's like talking to fish about the weather.

 

I suspect they are big news in Uganda.