Americans at World Health Organization transmitted real-time information about coronavirus to Trump

Wow, you really outdid yourself with this post! It is so, totally and completely dumb!!!! According to your post, you can study a virus that you do not have access to, and the Secret Service is made up of doctors that are gathering information on viruses that can kill thousands. Who would have known!!!!

I do not how to explain this any simpler for you. The Doctor in Wuhan was reporting on a virus that resembled SAARS back in November. They did not know that this was a unique coronavirus until mid-December. The doctor that blew the whistle on the existance of the virus sent out a memo to his colleagues informing them that doctors and nurses were becoming infected by this unique Coronavirus from the patients that they were treating. He stated that these patients needed to be quarantined. That memo ended up being published online informing the world what China was refusing to reveal. The existance of the virus, and that it was contagious. The local police called the doctor in, and forced him to sign a paper acknowledging that he would be charged with spreading lies on the internet. A month later, that doctor died of COVID-19. That doctor's memo was the first notice to the world of the existance of the outbreak in Wuhan. That memo was originally sent on December 29, and was published online on December 31. China knew of the outbreak of a SAAR's type virus in mid-November. Yet, they kept the information to theirselves. When a doctor blew the whistle on the outbreak, he was threatened by the police. They knew in mid-December that the virus was contagious, but did not let anyone know until January 20. Even then the information came through another doctor, and the world had to wait to see if the President of China would dispute the claim as they had done with the previous claim. Still, three days later, the Director of WHO was still claiming that there was no proof that the Coronavirus could be transmitted human to human. In my posts on this topic, I have provided links to articles that support every one of those facts. I welcome you to go back and actually review them. I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised that these articles are from Washington Post, New York Times and MSN. Liberal sites all.

I stand corrected on the sequencing date, but that really does not change anything. The DNA Gnome sequencing will help you create test kits to test for the virus, but that is about all.

To answer your first question, I suggest a field test of sorts. Tomorrow, put on you PPE, and take a chair to a public location. Have a seat, and stare up at the clouds. When someone asks you what you are doing, tell them you are studding COVID-19. Then observe their reaction. You see most people have something that you obviously are not afflicted with. It is called common sense. Common sense says that you can not study something that you do not have access to. Since China did not send out samples of the COVID-19, there was no way for the WHO or the CDC to study the key facts about the virus. Those facts include whether the virus was contagious between humans. So, without doctors on the ground in China collecting samples and data, there was nothing to study. A DNA sequencing alone would not produce any results that could be used. All, the WHO and the CDC could do was parrot the Chinese Government, and make guesses. Neither of which, provided the President with the necessary data to make a more proactive decision.

Let me clarify something that I stated earlier in this post. It is not that you are not afflicted with common sense, it is that your TDS has completely overwritten the common sense program sequencing, Just like a big old computer virus. I know. Your not a computer. If you were you would have enough ROM to process the necessary RAM to utilize common sense logic. Obviously, you don't.

China withheld information for their own national agenda. Prior to the outbreak, a whistleblower claimed that the Wuhan Lab was testing the use of bats bioagent delivery system to deliver a Coronavirus type virus. The US Intelligence services had already pointed out that the Wuhan Lab was not following their the protocols for the lab's biohazard rating. Then the outbreak of a Coronavirus in that area. You can see that China would be concerned about the perception that the lab, and it lax rules, would be a cause of international concern. Especially, since the city is a tourist destination. The WHO could have pressured China to be more open and forthcoming, and to get quicker access. If the Director of the WHO had sounded the alarm back in early January, the rest of the world would have pressed China to give them access. But the Director was too busy trying to downplay the event. That withholding of information by China, and the capitulation by the Director of the WHO, is responsible for at least 75% of the nearly 200,000 deaths from COVID-19.

The President has done a valiant job trying to get ahead of this event. Many lives have been saved because of his actions.

Now, as usual, I will leave you the last TDS response on this topic.

 

Very possible. Note they contained it where it originated early on and transported to nations across the world. That is a fact. Communist Nations do whatever they want and you may be a shill for them. Think I smell collusion.

 

Jan 14 WHO said it was not human to human. Bad info is still bad info.

 

Travel policy is NOT what labs work on.

And, China was hardest hit at the beginning. They had to instituted seriously intense travel policy to get it under control. They required that people stay in theour houses. To go out for food required a legal pass. Only one person could leave the house for that purpose. Penalties for not doing that were 4 months in prison.

They did NOT transport it around the world - that is a LUDICROUS statement.

 

I know. But I don't need too much intelligence in my post to rebut you.

Oh... I see.. so you can't study anything from the genetic sequencing of the virus.

Oh... I see.. so you can study something from the genetic sequencing of the virus.

Huh?

And then you say "that's all"????? What more would could you realistically hope for at that point? But your understanding of Science is soooo obviously lacking. Scientists can gather many clues about a virus they don't have access to. Apart from the sequencing, which provides a lot of information, they can analyze where it was first reported and surmise what kinds of new viruses could emerge there from what is known about similar viruses in animals. They can study the reports of scientists who do have access to it. Knowing that it's a SARS variation, and what the Chinese scientists report are the differences, they can start planning for a vaccine and a cure. there is a lot scientists can do before obtaining a sample. And I know this, not because I have any clue about virology... but because I understand how Science works. In your case, you obviously have neither of the two, so...

Obviously Science is not an area in which you have much basic knowledge. So let's cut your nonsense. There is a question on the OP that you have been trying to obfuscate by going around in circles. And a second question that springs from the main one. Let's see if you finally give anything resembling an answer....

Yeah... because the CIA just hires anybody to hide inside a fake garbage can unitl the spy with the shoe-phone comes around and ask "What can you tell me .Agent 36?" Like the 100% factual documentary called "Get Smart!" describes, right?

God! Spies are highly educated people! What makes you think that there are no doctors working for intelligence gathering services (not the secret service). Of course there are! Especially in a nation where there is such high discontent like China... But you don't need to be a doctor to know that there is a cover up occurring in a Province of China. And to know that a new infectious disease has been discovered. And then add 2+2. You have and will not answered the question (question 2): why is the President of the United States relying on the W.H.O. for intelligence that can cost the lives of tens of thousands of Americans.

But, even then, the W.H.O. alerted the world of the new disease on January 8. Trump didn't even acknowledge the threat until ... March 16!!!

And we didn't have an intelligence agency in that list. Despite the fact that our governments have known for a long time that wetmarkets were a natural breedingground for viruses that could cause a pandemic. And that China was not the most open nation in the world.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16940861

When you said above something about a "dumb post"... looks like that was an introduction to what we could expect from your post, right?

So... question 2: You got an F.

Next!

I'll skip the part where you try to explain your statement about December having 44 days, because it's irrelevant to the questions on the OP.

What? Again? Ok ok... got it. You believe that you can't study it, but you can develop tests of something that.... you can't study. Nobody with even the faintest notion of human reasoning will understand that "logic"... but it's your position... So let's not dwell on it. And instead hope the answer to the main question is here... somewhere. Why is Trump accusing the W.H.O. of not providing information that he already had?

Right. So what is the WHO being accused of doing... or not doing?

The WHO could have pressured China?????????

What type of pressure would you propose? Tariffs? Yeah... China would have been horrified that the W.H.O. imposed tariffs on their exports to ... W.H.O.-land

Even your nonsense has no logic.

Yeah.... "early". Like acknowledging the threat over minus three months "before" the W.H.O. had sounded the first alarm.

Maybe it's not that you have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe it's that you don't understand how the calendar works. Let's assume that to give you some sort of "benefit of the doubt".

And you still haven't answered the main question on the OP (or either of them,for that matter): What is it they are accusing the W.H.O. of? O was your remark about not imposing "tariffs" on China your answer?

 

Time and time again, when Trump is guilty of something, he starts shifting the blame and his loyal followers take up the chorus of denial and shifting of the blame.

Trump isn't a mere politician. He is a king and a religious figure (indeed, a cult leader). No facts will get through to these people and Trump will never, ever accept responsibility or even acknowledge a failure on his part. He never has in all his privileged life and he never will, because no one will ever make him. His is the absolutely worst kind of personality to have in such a high position of power and responsibility for this and other reasons.

 

Of course they beat the hell out of those that wanted to come outside. That is what Communist oppresive regimme do. Kind of like the regimme you would like to turn this country into. But if they wanted to fly over seas....that was fine.

 

I haven't heard of anyone being beaten.

There are no constraints on people leaving the USA, either. There are many airlines selling tickets to and from America, even though we're well infected.

Do hate all countries that allow flights, or just China?

 

China was the "gateway" to this virus and they knew it. America evil....China good seems to be your take. Wonder what makes most of us suspicious?

 

If you want to accuse China of something, then pick something and support your accusation.

You might want to check your accusation against what WE have done, too, as it looks pretty silly to accuse China of something that we do.

 

You are a real work. You tell me of a Pandemic originating in America in the last century that has caused death and destruction around the world. And then how about citing examples how we covered it up and allowed its transportation. These are facts I expect you to look into. The Communist dictatorship of China does these things because they can. There is no accountability whatsoever. My accusation is supported. Are yours?

 

You're trying to argue logic with a Communist. But he wouldn’t be a Communist if he had any logic.

 

I have seen no evidence that the CCP misbehaved.

If you want to cite something the CCP did, please do.

You don't have to tell me how much you hate China. That's just not an argument.

Also, you "accountability" thing is a little ridiculous. There isn't any system of international accountability. And, my bet is that you don't want such a system, as it would imply the existence of international law.

 

You are going to see evidence initiated by Japan and Australia already. The United States will initiate it if the Commie loving Democrats and media can't suppress it.

I don't hate China persay.....I would love to see them liberated. It is the Communist regime that commits barbarous acts.

We don't need international accountability. Globalism is what YOU want. We need sovereign Nations to band together who have common interests to punish and isolate a rogue Nation.

 

So, your hate for China leads you to GUESS that someone will find something on them??

Large trade pacts and other such agreements are quasi governmental groups that set law that applies to all members. That is global government.

Trump clearly not interested in that direction. He trashed the group that was restraining Iran. He trashed the trade group meant to cover the Pacific. He trashes WHO, which can have similar force. He doesn't like the UN or NATO. And, his reputation outside America is garbage. His approach to China has been one on one with tariffs, no less.

We're still a serious world wide force, of course, but suggesting we are the world leaders we once were is nonsense.

 

Trump's doing a fine job!

 

LOL!

 

Hopefully the next President will do just that.

If we put the incompetent bigot we have now in prison, where he belongs, that will be a good first step to repairing our shredded image abroad.

 

Blame Trump, I mean that; blame should be put where blame is due and this is almost entirely Trump's fault from the very beginning. Trump is the one whose bellicose posturing towards China caused them to respond with the same hostility to us and that is why this disease didn't get the same response of worldwide experts that very dangerous maladies of this type normally receive and that either eradicates or contains them before they become anything more than a laboratory curiosity. America First does NOT mean that we should hate the rest of the world that we are and will remain part of whether we like it or not. Simple xenophobia is not the solution to any of our problems but we have a President who cannot comprehend anything that is not as simple as he is.

 

I think it's telling that your the only one to actually acknowledge my post. Everyone else would rather ignore the USs role in this

 

Already debunked as fake news.