An extremely important question for the President

The question -- where is the body? -- has nothing to do with Trump. It has everything to do with the story the Saudi government is currently using to shield the crown prince.

The current story is Khashoggi was killed in a fist fight within the walls of the consulate. If so, where is the body? The world wants to know and the Saudis are not forthcoming. They are flummoxed. They haven't come up with an answer to that one.

 

Only leftists and their RINO political allies actually care. So it is strictly political . . . all this faked outrage.

 

Why does the USA care? Khashoggi was not a US citizen, he was not murdered in the USA. Muslims murder people all the time, often in horrendous ways. Suadi Arabia has a brutal side, as most of the Arab states do.

And the USA is suddenly so distraught some people want a complete upheaval in US foreign relations.

Why? Two reasons: Khashoggi was a left wing "journalist" and journalists feel threatened, and because the left wing thinks they can use this to cause trouble for Trump during the elections.

If Khashoggi was a conservative working for Fox, none of this would be news.

 

Trump is playing diplomacy here.

There are a lot of jobs and money at risk so he has to balance what is in the greater good for the nation.

That is his job so he is simply letting it play itself out and not taking a stand yet.

Wise call.

 

The fact that there is no body is no more and indication that it wasn't a rogue operation than that it was. And right now we have no evidence in either direction. And It is the last permutation of the Saudi idea not Trumps. Keep in mind the current king had nothing to gain from this and everything to lose. It makes no sense for him to do this in so ham handed a way. Right now all we have is hearsay and guess work.

 

Since the former CIA Director, Brennan publicly suggested removing President Trump from office by any means necessary

And since this heinous murder of a Washington Post reporter does NOT in any way benefit the Saudi , but it DOES benefit the Left Socialist Democrat party narrative that Trump wants to "silence" the mainstream media,

And since the Left Socialist Democrat party has aligned itself with the more radical fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR, and Palestinian terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, rather than the moderate, secularist Saudi Sunnis trying to reform Islam into modern world rather than remain in 7th century A.D. ignorance,

And since Obama's Brennan directed CIA was aiding ISIS with weapon and providing the logistics for Obamas cash delivery to the Iranian Jihadist Death to Israel regime, then it is entirely possible that

a compartmentalized CIA element loyal to Brennan, Clapper, and Leftist Globalists, could have orchestrated this murder to portray the reformers, secularist, and moderate Muslim Saudi as the "evil" partners in conspiracy with Trump, Netanyahu and the Israeli Mossad.

 

It's also important to take into account the timing of this assassination.I believe Kashoggi was fooled by someone within the U.S intelligence apparatus.He was given 100% guarantee.Someone who he trusted ane worked before.Anyway, people on this thread keep asking about the body. I'll give you a clue.Why do you need 15+ physically strong people to overcome a middle-aged man?

 

The explanation from the Saudi government as to what happened to Khashoggi is getting more bizarre by the day.

Saudi Arabia's foreign minister said Sunday that a "tremendous mistake" was made when Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi was killed at the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul and pushed back against the idea that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was linked to the journalist's death.

"There obviously was a tremendous mistake made and what compounded the mistake was the attempt to try to cover up. That is unacceptable in any government," he said. He characterized the killing as an "aberration" that did not fit with the behavior of the Saudi regime.

Then there is the body. The foreign minister offered this incredulous explanation. To cover up their misdeed, the team rolled up Khashoggi’s body in a rug, took it out in a consular vehicle and handed it over to a “local cooperator” for disposal, the official said. This is surreal. If this is the best the Saudis have to offer, they are not too bright.

So, where is the body? It did not evaporate. Surely the "local cooperator" knows where he put the body.

Or, the Saudis do not want the world to know the condition of that body.

Going back to what was said earlier, the foreign minister pushed back against the idea that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was linked to the journalist's death. That, too, is an incredulous statement to make. MBS did not like the Post reporter because he was questioning the crown prince's authority. Since the operation was conducted by people close to MBS, it is rather obvious MBS ordered the seizure and interrogation of Khashoggi. It certainly follows that MBS is responsible for what happened as a consequence of the seizure he ordered. The Saudis are ignoring that simple fact.

Adel al-Jubeir told Fox News host Brett Baier that Khashoggi was killed in a "criminal" act committed by individuals operating "outside the scope of their authority." It is fitting that the Saudi minister appeared on Fox, euphemistically called the Trump Network. It is an extremely friendly network for anything involving Trump. This issue definitely involves Trump because of his copious financial ties to the Saudi royal family.

SA can stop the bleeding now by admitting the obvious, and a part of the obvious is, MBS overstepped his authority. MBS cannot nab legal American residents and reporters because he does not like what they write. King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud must remove MBS from power and Trump has to eat his words. A smart President would never have said them in the first place.

Al-Jubeir's defense on Fox aired the day after Trump accused the Saudi government of lying about Khashoggi's death, even as he continued to defend the leadership of the crown prince. See, now that simply makes no sense. The crown prince is the Saudi government.

 

"I am not satisfied with what I’ve heard," Trump said today. "We're going to get to the bottom of it."

He made no mention of the crown prince. Trump is learning.

Good thing. It is pretty clear now that Khashoggi's murder was premeditated. A member of the 15-man team suspected in the death of Jamal Khashoggi dressed up in his clothes and was captured on surveillance cameras around Istanbul on the day the journalist was killed.



CNN reports that a member of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's entourage made four calls to the royal's office from the consulate around the same time as Khashoggi's murder.

The net is closing in on the crown prince.

 

Does all this mean oil will be cheaper, or more expensive?

 

It is easy to see you have intellectual capacity of a Trump follower.

Khashoggi was a legal resident of the U.S., living in Virginia with three children who are American citizens. He was a journalist for the Washington Post, which may explain why you could care less about his murder.

S.A. is the leading oil exporter in the world. We do not need Saudi oil, but our allies do, Stability in oil prices is very important to the U.S.

Then there are the arms shipments to S.A. which is in the millions and employing thousands of Americans.

"Why does the USA care?" Wheee!

Ludicrous.

Even more ludicrous.

The most ludicrous of all.

You guys are funny.

 

You refuted nothing. Khashoggi was not a US citizen, his murder was not on US soil, the US has little reason to care. My earlier post stands its ground.

 

Trump's fans continue to offer their insight regarding the Khashoggi murder and the resulting crisis. Their perception is overwhelming.

 

Thanks.

 

I do not refute the absurd.

This is probably asking a lot of you, but why don't you read some of my posts that deal with what is happening in this crisis. You just might learn something.

You may not think this is serious, but the Trump administration thinks it is serious. Trump has been involved in the crisis for the past twelve days, and he removed our representation in the financial conference in Riyadh. That's serious.

 

Oh, you are more than welcome, particularly if you think that was a compliment.

 

That is very much a part of the issue. It depends on whether or not the Saudis want to cut their losses. If the king removes MBS from power, this could end with minimum cost to the royal family. If he doesn't, all bets are off and oil production may become a casualty.

 

That's a very good question. The Saudis are not handling this well. For one thing, they keep changing their story. That's a sure sign of guilt on crown prince's part. They are trying to protect him, and there is just too much incriminating evidence.

 

Thanks

 

Thank you. I always try to offer an alternative perspective.

 

Trump is reacting to political pressure, pressure generated by the media and by "progressives" who see an opportunity to make some personal political gains.

 

No, you want to change the subject. This is not going well for Trump. Yesterday, Trump began backtracking on his praise of MBS and the prince's sagacity.

 

Trump is reacting to a diplomatic crisis and his own personal financial stake which is tied to the royal family.

The media didn't create this crisis. S.A. did when they murdered a legal American resident and a Washington Post journalist. Blaming the media for all of Trump's problems is ludicrous. They are simply reporting the events.

"Trump is reacting to political pressure, pressure generated by the media and by "progressives'." Prove that. Just saying it does not make it so.

 

The media is hyping the issue. The USA has no national interest in the Khashoggi murder.

264 US citizens were killed in Mexico in 2016 (75 US citizens were murdered). In the Philippines, 12 US citizens were murdered. Since 2002, there have been 348 "un-natural deaths" of US citizens in Thailand.

Have you been ranting about the need for the USA to completely rework its relationship with those nations? No, because the people who were murdered in those countries were just average people and there is no political gain to be had.

You and the lefties only care about Khashoggi because you think you can hurt Trump.