Analysis: New "Cold War" with Putin??

China now has the opportunity to effectively own a second vote on the UN Security Council. Putin will sell his entire country to China to keep himself in power, but Xi will get to set the price. This process began in 2014, now it will accelerate. China wil lbe smart enough to let it seem like Russia is still running its own show, and it won't tug on the strings at every oppotunity, but it will when it needs something.

Russia will be an incressingly isolated & impoverished nation trying to be a world military power with a GDP barely bigger than Australia. China won't give a cent more than it needs to, but it will give enough.

The only way out of this for Russia is to ditch dictators, withdraw from its stolen territories & join the ranks of the civilized world. As long as Russia remains a dictatorship and holds terrotory stolen from others it will need China to prop it up.

 

Former members of the WARSAW Pact want to join
1 - the EU
2 - NATO

Why?
1 - economic security
2 - military security

No-one is pushing them. Now with Adold Putin overplaying his hand both Finland and Sweden
are considering joining. Western nations don't Adolfs making decisions and telling everyone else
later, they have
1 - debates
2 - votes

And guess what? Russia too can join
1 - the EU
2 - NATO

The only trouble for the Russian elite joining us
1 - loss of political power
2 - loss of money through corruption

So the whole world has to suffer the misery of
1 - Putin
2 - his Oligarchs
3 - Military Industrial Complex.

 

Evidence of unlawfulness please.

A little confusing, but ok... sniffing a bit of bollocks with bold though.

Can't disagree with much of that. Perhaps Ukrainians are perceived as more "like us".

Again, a bit of a mish-mash of ideas. Interesting parallels, though. Can you please elaborate on bold?

 

You're trolling me, right? Some of your statements are just wildly conclusive/inaccurate.

The US and UK took advantage of the Soviet Union's collapse in order to bring as many eastern European countries into the fold. We are very likely that third world nations didn't have the enormous economic and military power that they do today. These days, Russia, China, Brazil, Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and India, etc. could very well leverage their power against the US and NATO.

I never said NATO didn't provide economic and military security for it's members, and they didn't do it cause the money they would get from corruption wasn't worth the political or military fall-out that comes with a war against Russia, who has a really impressive ally called China, and maybe Brazil, India, and a host of other ME, African, and South American countries. It's just talk right now.

No one is pushing them? You know we overthrow a lot of governments that are pro-Russia, right? We just tried to do it Syria.

Why would Russia join NATO? Russian is consistently called the number one threat to NATO. It's an anti-Russian organization that's meant to curb their power in the region, and China would have to respond against an alliance between NATO and Russia cause it would upset the tripolar global security balance. China would immediately believe that they were joining forces to take them out, because they are a fascist authoritarian nation that's still holding onto the idea of Greater China like Iranian National Doctrine is a dream of restoring the Persian Empire. We could have had Russia in NATO if Trump were still President just like we could have had an Israeli-Arab Alliance that supplied the US with excess oil and NG needs, and kept Iran's poop kicked in, but John Kerry need his money. He hasn't gotten his payoff for betraying his country.

Dude... You think it's just corruption? ****. Like NATO's poop don't stink? You know how much corruption is involved with NATO policies. Like Joe Biden's Son had a financial interest in Ukraine, and Joe Biden was providing favors to any foreign business or government that'd give his son or other family members a pay-off. John Kerry has a similar arrangement in China and Iran, which is why he gave away Israeli military intelligence as soon as capable. Jeb Bush and Linsey Graham got some investment companies in China. Give me a F-ing break. There will be just as much corruption in Russia, except other NATO members will be sticking their hands in the trough. There's money to be made in Russia given the anti-fossil fuel and mining industries in other European countries.

The World is suffering cause white countries in Europe and the US didn't realize that their energy supplies were inadequate after the shutdown given that overseas Oil, NG, and precious metal producers in the third world and developing countries were completely put out of business cause the US shutdown way too long while trying to cut carbon emissions even though green energy in the US was making comeback under the last administration for some reason. Now Russia and China have an enormous control over Carbon Energy Markets needed to fuel the "Green Economy", precious metals necessary to create the technology and mass produce green energy and EVs, and a compete stranglehold on Agriculture and Goods markets all the way from Brazil to Africa to Asia. It's really Biden's fault for pursuing this ridiculous green energy bill while his 'Green Allies' were telling "no you lunatic". Everyone wanted to NG pipeline, and the US is cancelling those projects cause of Democrats. Biden shutdown the Israeli and Greek Med. Pipeline, and paved the way for Russia to handle energy vulnerabilities for all NATO Allies.

The whole world has to suffer cause Trump was too dangerous to our national security. Meanwhile, it was China and Fauci that are responsible for Covid-19, and Biden who soured our relations with the Saudis and Russia with his incessant calls on allies to sanction Russia for Election Interference cause they posted some mean comments on Facebook. At a time when the whole world was in economic crises, Biden wanted to put pressure on Russia and Saudi Arabia, not cause of Nordstream, but because of his party's insane double standard when it comes to election interference and cyber attacks. Yet, he wants deals with China and Iran even though they have been caught multiple times hacking US infrastructure with other nations. My God... This Administration is so backwards that they haven't even figured out that they are making deals with members of this alliance of. convenience cause they think they can flip one of them, but they are getting played. And if Russia get Israel, our cybersecurity defense and advanced weapon innovators, then we will have lost a key reason we still have a technological military edge over other nations. China and Russia are licking their chops for a piece of Israel, who is trying to stay out of it cause they've obviously lost trust in Biden's Cabinet.

 

RT shutdown cause member of the House Armed Services Committee were like "No you didn't just contradict our propaganda." You guys didn't hear this story? It was major news. Clearly if they are forcing companies to censure opinion news contradicting US controlled news, then it's effectively unlawful. They are doing it at the directions of the Government via pretty direct threats.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ca-shuts-down-after-directv-roku-drop-channel

The part about Napoleon, Marx, Lenin and Hitler is all very evident from the history of revolutionaries, anarchists, and workers movements that were inspired by the French Revolution. After Napoleon was defeated, the movement took a dark turn when the anarchists that Napoleon despised and took out, started to go in the direction of anti-semitism present in the aristocracy. See... In the US, it was easy to distract workers of certain races with their poor wages and unsafe working conditions, because the factory owners could just blame on the Asians in California, or the Lincoln's freed Slaves. In Europe, the revolutionaries and anarchists used Jews as an enemy to united against, because they were of a different religion than all the other ethnic minorities. The history gets a little murky at the higher education level cause of the communists/socialists academics that wanted to separate a Germanized version of the communist manifesto's format and rules. Hitler was a communist, but a German communist. Lenin and Marx would have described him as a socialist that is taking society on its way communist. Socialism was just a step towards the people rising up. Hitler couldn't sell his version of Marx and Lenin as something Russian, because Germans had just lost WWI to the Russians, so he tweaked it around to add some parts about Jews. In the German Parliament at the time, the head of the Russian-Associated Communist Party in the Weimer parliament was a Jew named Werner Scholem. His parties were associated with radical activities, because Antifa was like everywhere. They stormed the beaches of Normandy. So, Werner was easy pickings for Hitler, and he died in a concentration camp.

To your point about Ukrainians looking like us, I agree with this accusation of racial/racist double standards. If there was genocide in Africa right now, we'd never get involved cause we can't be seen to have killed tons of black dudes no matter if they're raping the dead bodies of women and children and shouting out Sean Hannity cause they are big fans of him. It's just optics. We have put tons of pressure on Russia, and not China, because they are Asians. We are going to ignore all valid genocides and military build-ups because they aren't our white. Plus, everyone is in China's pocket, even the President's son. If you showed the evidence on a laptop in a Trump Impeachment, I wouldn't complain one about it, aside from the obvious double standard.

In regards to Ukraine being the Mexico of Europe, they have a corrupt government that steals opportunities from its working class. Zelensky's "government has introduced schemes to entice workers to stay, such as assistance for small and medium businesses and a large-scale construction program to create jobs. But Ukrainian salaries remain among the lowest in Europe, and corruption is endemic." (Cite Below). The reason Europe hasn't experienced the increase income inequality from an import of unskilled laborers, as well as other issues is due to the fact that they go home to their country after the growing season ends. To exemplify the impact that refugees and large immigration has on countries, you can go check how education in some areas and countries in Europe got hit in the rankings while some anti-immigration countries actually did a lot better cause more resources. That's the story of California. And the only reason so many illegal immigrants are coming to our country is due to the fact that we won't F-ing take out the government in Mexico, and install one that isn't involved in the cartel trade. We can put our solar panels in Mexico so they have jobs. They can be our little Ukraine puppet state, except the people can have their money stolen by an American Politician's half-wit son. https://www.politico.eu/article/coronavirus-ukraine-migrant-workers-trapped/

The point is that the situation in Ukraine only works if Migrants don't come flooding into Europe like the East Germans did after Russian annexations in WW1, and poles, Jews, and other ethnicities continually flood in due to anti-semetic and ethnically-bigoted Russian Policies like the Programs and the 1st Holocaust that they don't teach you about in school. Known as the Holodor. So does this sound like NATO is going to win? Russians just gonna move their loyal migrant communities in Ukraine, and sell Ukrainian food back to Ukrainians living in other countries. Also, there ain't going to be farming opportunities, so the Ukrainians will go into the cities to work. But they'll find nothing, but bars and angry people. And then one guy will start talking about the migrant infestation that's taking German Jobs, and the Ukrainians will point their finger at the Jewish Ukrainian President that lost the war due to his corruption as a grubby little Jew. And then there will be political debates about getting rid of migrants, and just like the debate before Hitler came to power, the Leftists and Owners will craft a message like "We need the Poles cause they do the jobs Germans won't do" cause they started out as unskilled migrant farmers. I saw multiple statements like that in a research paper and found it in a book translated to English, and that's how I learned about the ills of external and internal, unmanageable immigration into an overpopulated country. And then went back to Revolutionary France, China, and Russia, and I found the same exact trend. It's not the fault of illegal immigrants, but it is a cautionary tale about how Russian Communists caused the destruction in Europe and their homeland in WW2 by forcing undesirable religious and cultural groups into Poland and Germany.

 

....yeah agree....Putin doesn't give a crap though he's got loads meat to throw at the grinder.....the a bunch of Chechan's to do the dirty work

 

NATO is not anti Russian but anti Communist and anti Oligarch - when Russia became more Western with Gorbachev
and Yeltsin people saw less need for NATO. Mind you, Russia was still there, but not a Stalin or Putin style Russia which
threatens her neighbors.
And now maybe Finland will join NATO - again, Russia has always been there, but an aggressive Putin wasn't.