Another lying snake comes out from under her rock

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

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    Kavanaugh is the God-Emperor now? Or Trump supporters have to be maligned 'cause it's Thursday? Kavanaugh is a solid nominee in every aspect, and it's not Kavanaugh or Trump's public reputations that's being destroyed. Dirty Dianne Feinstein faces ruin in mid-terms.
     
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    If your argument was limited to abortion regarding the zygote, perhaps it would be "coherent and Fallacious". However it is not. Babies are aborted to almost full term and your argument has been it is a womens right over her own body with no regard to the life within her.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When she and her character have undergone the amount of vetting that Kavenough has gone through recently, then we will be able to judge the "he said she said". Until then, we know far more about him and it is favorable. You talk as if she was raped and even by her own words she wasn't. Your anti Trump rhetoric is like the diarrhea oozing from those suffering from TDS.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The liberal women is never to be questioned, in spite of the fact 60 women have testified to the contrary. So let it be written......and all that blather.
    You just like unquestioned testimony that feeds your leftist causes.
     
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    She's not very bright to get in the situation where she is drunk at 15, with boys that are 17, and in a swim suit, at a house unchaperoned.
     
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    I support the present laws, not the fabrication of "8 months" by the anti-abortion mob members.

    No, he's not. Trump's a definitely a Beta. Your derail toward a lame ex-President is exactly what Beta's would do. :D

    Why I know Trump is a Beta male:
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    Actually quite a few of Kavanaugh's classmates are willing to swear that he never drank to the point of being out of control.
     
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    Certainly, with the conservative Mark Judge's account in Wasted being publicly known, the need for witnesses to be heard -and for an objective investigation to ascertain the truth of the matter - becomes all the more necessary. Witnesses testifying as to the character of both the accused and accuser before the Senate Judiciary Committee would further the cause of truth and the appearance of it.

    What happened at Georgetown Prep should not stay at Georgetown Prep.
     
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    What argument ? You make these claims that you can not backup. Science does no such thing and as such your claim is completely false.

    What is worse is that I have already refuted the DNA argument that anti-aborts try to make in previous posts. A heart cell has the same DNA as the zygote. Having human DNA does not make a heart cell "a human".

    So then - what is the significant difference between the zygote and other human cells that make the zygote "a human" and these other cells not ?
     
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    This is not true. You are making things up because you really do not know what significant brain function means. When a living human lacks significant brain function - the doctor pulls the plug and the dirt nap begins.

    This is not done on the basis of something vague enough to mean just about anything.
     
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    There is nothing fallacious about my argument. On the other hand - you have not presented a coherent - non fallacious argument.

    You are the one that is generalizing all stages of pregnancy into the same boat and refuse to use technically correct language. I have stated a specific stage and made a specific argument in relation to that stage.

    Then you build a big Strawman fallacy by accusing me of an argument I did not make. I have stated that in the later stages of pregnancy I believe a living human exists.

    Do you have anything other than fallacy and deflection ?
     
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    I know that there is no way to determine such a thing in a fetus.
     
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    Science through DNA clearly identifies an unborn child as human from the moment of conception

    Using your logic an abortion doctor could cut off the arm of a patient, let them bled to death, and then claim she didnt take a human life but merely disconnect some tissue
     
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    You keep pretending to know things that you do not.

    .https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2013121237A1
     
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    I have explained the difference between the descriptive adjective and the noun form of the word "human" to you numerous times ... YET - you continue to make the same mistake.

    Have you no capability for learning or are you being intentionally obtuse ?

    Once again - What is the significant difference between a human heart cell and the zygote such that one is a living human and the other is not. A human heart cell - as per its DNA - is just as human as the zygote.


    Quit making up absurd nonsense and attributing it to me. The zygote will never be part of the structure of the human that is being created.

    Further - you are assuming that a human exists in the above argument when the whole point of this conversation is whether or not this is the case = "assumed premise fallacy".
     
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    And how do they determine when a fetus has significant brain function?
     
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    Since nothing happened I guess nothing will just have to stay at Georgetown.
     
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    Your diversion fails once again. I doubt we will see other than more diversions. Remember this nation has had presidents actually having sex with non wives there, in the white house, and yet found out they stayed in office.

    Supposedly Democrats are extremely liberal when it comes to sex.
     
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    Why are you asking me when you have already claimed to know this ? What part of - when a living human lacks significant brain activity - the plug is pulled and the dirt nap begins are you having trouble understanding. Do you think they do this on a whim ?

    Either you are being intentionally obtuse or you not using the non brain dead head on your shoulders.

    Brain death by EEG is determined on the basis of lack of electrical activity. While this science continues to evolve and get more refined - your claim that this science is vague enough to mean just about anything - is patent nonsense.
     
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    You are still failing to answer my question.
     
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    When has the Judge been placed under oath on this woman's issue?
     
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    I answered your question. Lack of significant electrical activity in the brain. Go look up the standards if you want a more details. It is not like Doctors just make up a number.

    You were the one that claimed to know this already so why are you asking me for more details ?

    Obtuse or not using brain ?

    To determine brain death, electrocerebral inactivity (ECI) should be demonstrated on EEG at a sensitivity of 2 μV/mm using double-distance electrodes spaced 10 centimeters or more apart from each other for at least 30 minutes, with intense somatosensory or audiovisual stimuli. ECI should be also verified by checking the integrity of the system
     
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    First of all, knock off the insults.
    I have claimed no great knowledge. Mainly, I have said there are a lot of opinions and none which could be considered absolutely conclusive. You claim it should be significant brain activity. Significant does not mean there is no brain activity or for that matter that something other than brain activity is just as important determining when life begins. Significant means that someone decided that was the threshold. You are claiming that your opinion is the only opinion which matters.
     
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    Now you are putting words in my mouth - and being obtuse. What I said was that your claim that the threshold is "vague" such that it could mean anything to anyone - is patently false.

    There is a whole lot of science that underlies that threshold - none of which you have read. It is not "my opinion" - it is the opinion of the medical community, scientists, researchers and so on.

    You were trying to make the argument that the threshold is completely arbitrary ... and that is simply false.
     
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    You forgot to list the most important factor

    Alpha male - votes republican

    Beta (or Beto) male - votes democrat or sits on the fence
     
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