Anti Gun Ideologies

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how big is "full capacity"?

    10? 20? 30?
     
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    Heaven forbid. Most police are woefully undertrained.

    You can't make someone jump through hoops to exercise a Constitutional right.
     
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    Less than 1% of all homicides involve 3 or more victims, and prior to 1994 there had never been a single recorded mass shooting (3 or more killed) in NYC with any type of firearm. Are you claiming a causal effect of the AWB and 10 round capacity restriction for the decline in homicides in NYC where "assault weapons" have never been used in a mass shooting, and where 10 rounds wouldn't be enough to kill one or two victims?

    From 1994 to 2014, New York state saw a 71% decline in homicides. Texas, saw a 60% decline over the same time.
     
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    For which firearm? For the AR-15 in 5.56mm, 30 rounds. That same magazine only holds about 10 round of .458 SOCOM. If I have a .458 SOCOM upper and a Magpul Gen 3 magazine, is it a 30 round or a ten round magazine?
     
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    I would rather live in a violent, volatile, but free land instead of a docile, safe, and authoritarian one.
     
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    why not 10 rounds?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so the choice is either extreme violent+liberty or complete safety+ tyranny?

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    What the firearm was designed to hold and will function reliably with. Arbitrary limitations are idiotic.
     
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    Because there is no legitimate reason for that limitation.
     
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    30 rounds is an arbitrary number
     
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    Further... arbitrary and capricious limits on the exercise of a right, especially when they cannot be shown to be the least restrictive means to affect a compelling state interest, violate the constitution.
     
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    Not surprised you aren't capable of comprehending the point.

    I choose freedom over slavery. Period. I don't care how "safe" that slavery is; I want no part of it.
     
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    "freedom over slavery" is a useless bi-polar choice.

    its never that simple.
     
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    No, it's not. 30 rounds is what was found to work most efficiently in a manageable sized magazine. Period.

    Limiting capacities is an arbitrary political football, not a legitimate functional one. In truth, altering magazines to not hold the designed number actually can hamper proper function of the weapon.
     
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    "Extreme violent"?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if the choice is between 100% liberty with violent anarchy and totalitarianism but total safety, I choose something in the middle.
     
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    10 rounds is the epitome of arbitrary. 30 rounds for an AR still allows a user to fire from the prone position. Any more and the magazine would be too long.

    For handguns, the capacity is dependent upon the size of the pistol grip.
     
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    Actually, it is.
     
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    We all have.
     
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    And a pinch more if you add a plus two magazine extention....
     
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    only if you're trying to push a very bi-polar agenda.

    there are many shades of grey
     
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    You can choose for yourself how you wish to live. You can't force other people to comply with your personal preferences.
     
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    why not? u do it all the time.

    unless you now claim to be a pure Libertarian.
     
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    Why ten rounds?
     
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    It's not "bi-polar" to choose freedom over authoritarianism. Your authoritarian preferences are well documented, so excuse me if I choose not to live under the totalitarian policies you advocate for.
     

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