Anxious Greeks Emptying Their Bank Accounts

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  1. DonGlock26

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    Anxious Greeks Emptying Their Bank Accounts


    Many Greeks are draining their savings accounts because they are out of work, face rising taxes or are afraid the country will be forced to leave the euro zone. By withdrawing money, they are forcing banks to scale back their lending -- and are inadvertently making the recession even worse.



    Georgios Provopoulos, the governor of the central bank of Greece, is a man of statistics, and they speak a clear language. "In September and October, savings and time deposits fell by a further 13 to 14 billion euros. In the first 10 days of November the decline continued on a large scale," he recently told the economic affairs committee of the Greek parliament.

    With disarming honesty, the central banker explained to the lawmakers why the Greek economy isn't managing to recover from a recession that has gone on for three years now: "Our banking system lacks the scope to finance growth."

    He means that the outflow of funds from Greek bank accounts has been accelerating rapidly. At the start of 2010, savings and time deposits held by private households in Greece totalled €237.7 billion -- by the end of 2011, they had fallen by €49 billion. Since then, the decline has been gaining momentum. Savings fell by a further €5.4 billion in September and by an estimated €8.5 billion in October -- the biggest monthly outflow of funds since the start of the debt crisis in late 2009.

    The raid on bank accounts stems from deep uncertainty in Greek households which culminated in early November during the political turmoil that followed the announcement by then-Prime Minister Georgios Papandreou of a referendum on the second Greek bailout package.

    Papandreou withdrew the plan and stepped down following an outcry among other European leaders against the referendum, and a new government was formed on Nov. 11 under former central banker Loukas Papademos. That appears to have slowed the drop in bank savings, at least for the time being.

    Bank Withdrawals Worsening Crisis

    Nevertheless, the Greeks today only have €170 billion in savings -- almost 30 percent less than at the start of 2010.

    The hemorrhaging of bank savings has had a disastrous impact on the economy. Many companies have had to tap into their reserves during the recession because banks have become more reluctant to lend. More Greek families are now living off their savings because they have lost their jobs or have had their salaries or pensions cut.

    In August, unemployment reached 18.4 percent. Many Greeks now hoard their savings in their homes because they are worried the banking system may collapse.

    Those who can are trying to shift their funds abroad. The Greek central bank estimates that around a fifth of the deposits withdrawn have been moved out of the country. "There is a lot of uncertainty," says Panagiotis Nikoloudis, president of the National Agency for Combating Money Laundering.

    The banks are exploiting that insecurity. "They are asking their customers whether they wouldn't rather invest their money in Liechtenstein, Switzerland or Germany."

    Nikoloudis has detected a further trend. At first, it was just a few people trying to withdraw large sums of money. Now it's large numbers of people moving small sums. Ypatia K., a 55-year-old bank worker from Athens, can confirm that. "The customers, especially small savers, have recently been withdrawing sums of €3,000, €4,000 or €5,000. That was panic," she said.

    Marina S., a 74-year-old widow from Athens, said she has to be extra careful with money these days. "I have no choice but to withdraw money from my savings," she said.

    Bad Loans

    The shrinking Greek bank deposits compare with bank loans totalling €253 million. Analysts say the share of bad loans could rise to 20 percent next year, or €50 billion, as a result of the recession. This in turn will worsen the already pressing liquidity problems faced by Greek banks.

    Nikos B., a doctor in the Greek military, has had enough of the never-ending crisis his country is going through. While the 31-year-old has a secure job, repeated salary cuts have made it increasingly hard for him to make ends meet.

    He needs most of his money to make loan repayments for a small car. "How can I clear my account? There's hardly anything in it," he says. He started learning German two months ago and wants to leave Greece. "As soon as possible!"

    Nikos pauses and looks down. He quietly utters words that must be painful for a proud Greek. "It would be best to change nationality."

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,802051,00.html


    Don't change your nationality, man. Abandon socialism.


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  2. frodo

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    This was predicted some months ago. People want to get their Euros out of Greek banks, and the country because the Government will take them and give Drachma in return - which will devalue quickly.

    A Greek default is actually a very simple process.

    1. The Greek Government announces that all Government contracts in Greece will now be written and paid for in Drachma.

    2. All wages and debts will be settled in Drachma.

    3. The EURO/ Drachma rate will be settled by the market.

    4. All Government debt in Euros will be paid down at some time in the future.

    5. Private holdings of Euros is now illegal and all Euros must be surrendered and exchanged for Drachma at a set rate.


    This type of currency control has been used (and still is) in many countries when they are financially stressed. Prohibition on private holdings of gold are often forbidden for the same reason - the Government needs them for foreign exchange.
     
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    Somebody already emptied their bank accounts.
     
  4. Lil Mike

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    If I had funds in a Greek bank I would take it out too.
     
  5. Anders Hoveland

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    Less lending is not going to hurt the economy. It will, however, rapidly deflate the asset bubble that had already been formed. This is wealth that never really existed. Hopefully when the price of housing falls, it will help poor Greeks.

    Personally, I think the Keynesian idea of "the paradox of thrift" is a bunch of hogwash. It's just circular logic when you closely examine it.
     
  6. fiddlerdave

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    Less lending slows businesses, or shuts them down. Less lending drives up prices and causes shortages, meanwhile businesses must go to the incredibly epensive loan sharks and other very exoensive sources, causing layoffs, pay cuts, smaller profits, and shutdowns.

    That is one reason Germany stays so powerful economically, when the other countries (including the USA) hot troubles and their banks stop lending and start speculating (which drives u commodity prices and inflation), Germany has a bank that is set up by the government to keep making adequate loans to medium and small businesses.
     

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