Still waiting for any data showing that Democrats are more racist than Republicans. Surely there must be some data you can find somewhere to support your position. Or maybe not! Guess you will have to keep relying on extrapolating from individual instances since you can't find data.
And another from USA today http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/27/poll-black-prejudice-america/1662067/
Actually, wow, did you pick the absolute worst person to have this argument with. I am a scientist. My specialty is working with scientific data, statistics, databases, and programming specifically to designed to handle things that off the shelf spreadsheet programs cant handle. I am highly paid for this because most people cant and/or don't do it correctly. Imperfect data means it is missing or lacking data. If your data set is missing or lacking data it cannot be considered "accurate" and isn't by any Scientist. We call this "estimated data" and there are even standard qualifiers people tag this type of data with. Each of you can read your towns water quality report and you will see these. We call it estimated because that's exactly what it is until you have a complete data set. Secondly, even if you have a complete data set, two scientists can look at the same data and derive opposite conclusions depending on what the purpose of the test is. We see this in the global warming debate. What you have isn't even estimated because according to your link which states: "Furthermore, the sample of Democrats and Republicans in the survey is not constant from year to year." This means they didn't even collect the data in the same manner year to year meaning, your link and subsequent leftist charts aren't worth jack shi*. Even the guy who wrote it realized he had to caveat this to the readers or else he would be immediately discredited. This means, the link you posted is an opinion piece with pie charts meant to hypnotize the low information Obama voters. How convenient leftists take surveys inaccurately and then post them as if they are real data. They realize the uninformed leftist readers wont understand the difference, much less question it. I could take a survey from forum members I choose to see if you are intelligent. Would it be accurate if they conclude you are not intelligent? Or do you conclude that could be biased and therefore not accurate? Based on 30 years of experience working with data, if your data set is not complete it cannot be deemed accurate. It is an estimated value at best. I will illustrate this by asking you a simple question. There are 10 glasses of water, you have been informed 1 of them may or may not contain poison. You have tested 7 of them and found them to be free of any poison. Is it accurate to say that the remaining untested three contain no poison? Or do you conclude in order to accurately make this statement that all 10 need to be tested? Ill explain the difference between accuracy and precision if you are interested in learning that as well. I even have a PPT for it. Also, it appears you read the forum rules as well as you read your own links. Personal attacks are against forum rules.
Actually my point was very simple which is you made up a term to describe the data which was not used in the article. This is fundamentally dishonest and you if you are as precise as you claim to be know the difference between the two words. Imperfect carries totally different connotations than inaccurate. And your silly example while you think it may make you look smart has no relevance to the discussion. Imperfect very simply means not perfect which applies to all polling data. NO polling data is perfect which is why they usually include margins of error. And if you actually have the qualifications you claim you would never post individual example of racist comments and the claim they represent the views of an entire group. You couldn't even resist the impulse to do this in your post where you once again make silly generalized statements about leftists.
I asked you a question about glasses of water. I did this to assess your honesty. To ensure you didnt overlook it Ill give you another opportunity to answer. If not I didnt need to prove you incorrect, you did it for me.
My impulse to honesty say to tell you your example is irrelevant to the issue at had and is mostly designed to pump up your own ego rather than deal with the question being discussed.
My example forces you to lie, avoid answering in order to avoid lying or answer honestyly which would prove me correct. You knew this and so did I, thats why you went with option 2. The question is not irrelevent as you brought up my comments on imperfect data.
The article says the data is imperfect not inaccurate or imprecise. Your example is irrelevant and you know it is just a feeble attempt to change the subject. Your inability to document with any data your claim that Democrats are more racist than Republicans is the real issue which you keep ducking. I have posted many links to data however imperfect they may be my evidence is vastly more accurate than your evidence which consists of individual instances instead of data. Stop ducking the issue and either post your data or withdraw your claim that Democrats are more racist than Republicans.
Actually, that's the problem with the repubs. They come up with fixes that we know will not work because of their partisan beliefs and then, to try to cover up their mistakes, they accuse others of just that. Stay tuned for future letters in my present series on this very subject.
The answer is that given the current information the remaining glasses probably don't contain poison. Very similar to using the data I presented on racism and saying " given the current information Republicans are probably more racist than Democrats".
The irony of this post makes it funnier than anything I've seen in the humor/satire section. What is the sound of one hand clapping? Any voice on either side of the aisle. Though that is not to say both parties are the same because one side is clearly bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy.
Ummm I already posted a video and you ignored the clear leftist racism right on cue and as I clearly stated repeatedly, I have video after video of leftist racists starting with the President and VP. I'm still waiting for your one example of anyone in the republican party exhibiting the racism you accuse them of. You post your absolutely pathetic lib blog worthless stats as if they are facts but cant produce anything resembling reality to back them up. Do you know what a circular reference is? Your arguments are the same as bible thumpers that prove Gods existence by showing you where in the bible it says so. Thanks. You and I both know who is now dishonest and who isn't. The question you refused to answer clearly illustrates why your data is inaccurate that's why you refused to answer it. Don't really care if the rest of the readers know. But you and I both know why you refused to answer now don't we. Keep dodging it, it amuses me.
Can you be a little more specific? For example...exactly which dishonest claim are you trying to prove false with that poison in the water scenario??? -Meta
The claim was made that I was being dishonest. I'm not trying to prove anything, I already proved it.
So you have no data. Tell me how you would rate the accuracy of your statement that Democrats are more Racist than Republicans based on the whatyou have presented. Let's see how honest you are. And if you are actually a statistician tell me about the validity of drawing conclusions from flawed data versus drawing conclusions from no data. Which do you think has the higher probability of being correct.
The link states "Two warnings about this data. First, survey responses are an imperfect means of evaluating racism. Social desirability bias may discourage Americans from expressing their true feelings. Furthermore, the sample of Democrats and Republicans in the survey is not constant from year to year. If the partisan gap in racial attitudes toward blacks has widened slightly in the past few years, it may be because white racists have become more likely to identify themselves as Republican, and not because those Americans who already identified themselves as Republican have become any more racist." Your use of the word "conclusively" is a distortion of your own link. Personally, I like Nate Silver and trust his statistics and data-gathering methodology. He's clear, as quoted above, on what is and is not.
So we both agree. You have proved you are dishonest. Or maybe your Language skills are as good as your statistical skills.
You are correct. I should have said that based on the article probability favors the conclusion that Republicans are more racist than Democrats.
