Apply background checks for gun purchases to voting

There are already laws that covers FFL's in such situations and FFL requirements for record keeping, sales, fraud, etc.; no need add one that penalizes law abiding gun owners for being victims of theft or obstructing private sales by non FFL gun owners.
Before posting the "I read somewhere", you should find and post a link to the report. What does the action of a FFL violating current law have to do with anything?
Geez, I read somewhere Hitler and Elvis are alive in hiding and the world is going to end Saturday.

 

First, exactly what could possibly be proposed by yourself, that the state of California has not already tried? What firearm-related restrictions do you have in mind to propose to address the matter of individuals having no regard for either the law, or the consequences of violating such? Secondly, it is not those that support firearm-related freedoms that are shielding firearms traffickers from the consequences of their actions. It is not these individuals who are refusing to pursue prosecutions.

Second, all firearm sales in the state of California are already limited to only one firearm per month. A person can only legally acquire twelve firearms per year. Next proposal please.

Third, then give a list of exactly what these proposals are that would not, in any way, limit legitimate firearms ownership. Present your recommendations for review. It can be all but guaranteed that the state of California has already attempted such, and it has proven to be a complete failure.

 

Indeed.
California is proof that "common sense gun control" is a failure.

 

Seemed to work for NFA 1934.

 

The sole reason the national firearms act with machine guns, was because there were only a few legally owned machine guns at the time. The majority were held by the military, because the cost could not be afforded by the average individual at the time. The law was implemented long before the product ever entered widespread circulation amongst the public.

The same cannot be said for handguns, or any number of other firearm currently in existence by a magnitude of tens of millions. They are already in circulation right now, and beyond the reach of any similar proposals. In simple, uncomplicated, easy to understand terms, government waited too long to act, and now nothing can be done about it. Metaphorically speaking, the patient has lost too much blood to be saved.

 

Never mind the clear and direct statement from the court that the 2nd Amendment protects the individual's right to keep and bear arms. The state can no more force people to register a gun as it can force them to register to go to church.

 

I'm not talking about taxing criminals. I'm talking about the state recouping some of the cost of criminal activity via a tax on citizens. Nothing wrong with that. If you want to own firearms, fine and good, but pay the state for their cost to society. Particularly on firearms that are most often bought for concealed carry.

 

Taxing firearms violates the Constitution in exactly the same was at taxing abortions.

 

Abortions don't kill cops.

 

Meaningless response.
Taxing firearms violates the Constitution in exactly the same was at taxing abortions.

 

You don't walk into a grocery store, pull out an abortion, and kill the clerk with it. Even strict constitutionalist know that.

 

Another meaningless response.
Taxing firearms violates the Constitution in exactly the same way as taxing abortions.

 

This isn't the abortion section.

 

Yet -another- meaningless response - It's almost as if you know you cannot respond with any degree of substance.
Taxing firearms violates the Constitution in exactly the same way as taxing abortions.

 

No, your responses are meaningless. You pay taxes on firearms.

 

4 meaningless responses in a row. New record, eh?
Taxing firearms violates the Constitution in exactly the same way as taxing abortions.

 

Bill S.1298
SECTION 1. Chapter 29 of the General Laws, as appearing in the 2014 Official Edition, is hereby amended by inserting after section 2QQQQ, the following new section:-

2RRRR. There is hereby established and set up on the books of the commonwealth a separate fund to be known as the Firearms Violence Prevention Trust Fund. Amounts credited to such fund shall be available, without further appropriation, to the Secretary of the Executive Office of Public Safety and Homeland Security who shall utilize such funds to establish an annual municipal grant program to support municipal violence prevention programs. Provided that priority shall be given to programs that support the provision of school resource officers, programs to address youth exposure to actual and depicted violence, and training of police in handling incidents involving persons suffering from mental illness.

SECTION 2. Section 2 of Chapter 64H of the General Laws, as so appearing, is hereby amended by adding the following new paragraph:-

In addition to all other rates of tax provided herein, an additional surcharge of 4.75 percent shall be imposed on sales at retail of all ammunition, rifles, shotguns, firearms or parts thereof, as those terms are defined in section 121 of chapter 140, in the Commonwealth. All revenues received from such surcharge, together with any penalties, forfeitures, interest, costs of suits and fines collected in connection therewith, less all amounts refunded or abated in connection therewith, all as determined by the commissioner of revenue according to his best information and belief, shall be credited to the Firearms Violence Prevention Trust Fund established pursuant to section 2RRRR of chapter 29 of the General Laws.

 

Take whatever tax you want to apply to firearms.
Apply it in the same manner to abortion.
Tell us how said tax on abortion does not violate the constitution.

 

I don't give a sh*t if they add a million dollar tax to every abortion. Taxing firearms is well within the law.

 

As expected, you cannot meet the challenge given to you.
Thanks for playing -- feel free to try again!

 

SECTION 2. Section 2 of Chapter 64H of the General Laws, as so appearing, is hereby amended by adding the following new paragraph:-

In addition to all other rates of tax provided herein, an additional surcharge of 4.75 percent shall be imposed on sales at retail of all ammunition, rifles, shotguns, firearms or parts thereof, as those terms are defined in section 121 of chapter 140, in the Commonwealth.

 

If "law abiding" gun owners were, in fact, "law abiding" we wouldn't have these issues would we?

But they're not and we do.

 

Indeed there is everything wrong with such a proposal.

If states with to recoup some of the cost of criminal activity, then the states should take the issue up with those who are actually releasing convicted criminals early, or not incarcerating them at all. It is these individuals who are making it possible for criminals to be so costly to society to begin with.

You do, however, walk into a grocery store, pull out a knife, and kill the clerk with it.

A person pays a sales tax on a product. They do not pay a fine to compensate the state for criminal activity.

 

Then cite where the united state supreme court stated that constitutional rights can be subjected to taxes and fines.

And pray tell exactly what is being proposed by yourself to address this matter? What requirements are being proposed by yourself that these individuals will simply have no choice to comply with, because there will be no manner in which noncompliance will be a viable option?

 

Cite where they can't, because they tax firearms amigo.

Bill S.1298
SECTION 1. Chapter 29 of the General Laws, as appearing in the 2014 Official Edition, is hereby amended by inserting after section 2QQQQ, the following new section:-

2RRRR. There is hereby established and set up on the books of the commonwealth a separate fund to be known as the Firearms Violence Prevention Trust Fund. Amounts credited to such fund shall be available, without further appropriation, to the Secretary of the Executive Office of Public Safety and Homeland Security who shall utilize such funds to establish an annual municipal grant program to support municipal violence prevention programs. Provided that priority shall be given to programs that support the provision of school resource officers, programs to address youth exposure to actual and depicted violence, and training of police in handling incidents involving persons suffering from mental illness.

SECTION 2. Section 2 of Chapter 64H of the General Laws, as so appearing, is hereby amended by adding the following new paragraph:-

In addition to all other rates of tax provided herein, an additional surcharge of 4.75 percent shall be imposed on sales at retail of all ammunition, rifles, shotguns, firearms or parts thereof, as those terms are defined in section 121 of chapter 140, in the Commonwealth. All revenues received from such surcharge, together with any penalties, forfeitures, interest, costs of suits and fines collected in connection therewith, less all amounts refunded or abated in connection therewith, all as determined by the commissioner of revenue according to his best information and belief, shall be credited to the Firearms Violence Prevention Trust Fund established pursuant to section 2RRRR of chapter 29 of the General Laws.