Arabs in Israel Have Higher Life Expectancy Than in any Arab or Muslim Country

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    They got denied to leave the Arabian Peninsula. It was the west who made those Arab countries change their minds. It was Israel who facilitated the transfer. Just a joke to call it ethnic cleansing. But we understand it. You lot do claim this, because with this fake news it seems "fair" that the Jews ethnic cleansed Arabs.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me know if you need help explaining the meaning of words FLIGHT and EXPULSION.
     
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    jimmy rivers Well-Known Member

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    Even when I occasionally click "show ignored users" I still skip right over that poster's posts. There's a handful of posters whose material I won't read under any circumstances, they are one of them, for obvious reasons.
     
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    The reverse psychology nonsense, got it...

    Now all of a sudden you care about equal rights for jews - when did this happen?
     
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    Just like in iran, the anti-semites hold up the token, single jew in parliament as some kind of heroic example of that regime's "kindness" and "tolerance" for minorities. Just hilarious.
     
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    Let me know if you're ready to understand that not being allowed to leave for Israel, being made to let Jews go, and Israel fetching them,.. is no ethnic cleansing in anybodies book.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nailed it :applause:
     
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  8. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, the Jews left nonetheless. Can you tell me what made these Arab governments change their minds? I thought, not being allowed meant, the Jews have never left? :love:
     
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    They even left illegally.
    Look things up yourself if you're interested.
     
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    Israel is 20% non-jewish, and has multiple arab parties roughly equivalent to their percentage of the population in its parliament.

    How many non-muslims are in the PA leadership? And since you carry so much water for iran's regime, how come the shia are only about 60-70% of its population - yet other than a single jew - have no minorities in its government or senior leadership positions?
     
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    <Rule 2>

    "there is no evidence iran is building nuclear weapons, but if they are - I support them!"

    "jews were communists and helped the soviets!" shortly followed by: "jews are greedy capitalists!"

    "there was no holocaust, it never happened!" shortly followed by: "I wish hitler had gotten all of you!"

    Its like a comedy skit.
     
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    Anybody who claim the Jews are not entitled to a country while Arabs have more than 22 is a racist.
     
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    What's the current deal with Israel revoking residency for thousands of Israeli Arabs?
     
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    Israel is a far right ethnic nationalist country. As such she wants rid of her non Jewish citizens.
    The Palestinians live on land which is being taken over by Israel. They live under Marshal law so stop trying to prove a point by asking for the impossible. (for now) As I said my point was in showing that the idea that someone, was it possibly you? said that no Jews would be accepted into a Palestinian State was false. I guess the person who put it there was either a deliberate agitator or did not know much about the situation. As I said the Palestinian position is that no settlers will remain. Jews as part of a Palestinian state could be negotiated.

    Now most of the Jews in the West Bank are settlers. A lot of them harm the Palestinians, throwing stones at them, destroying their olive groves, fighting with them, stabbing them even running them over. This of course is not news worthy and very few of these attacks are taken on by the news. It takes more, it takes people who do not believe in ethnic national states, people who do not hate the other to change things on that level. So lets look at people who do try the impossible and here we find it works because neither they nor the people they interact with are ethnic nationalists - ethnic nationalists always hate the 'other' as we saw most destructively in Nazi Germany.

    Here is the guy I was looking for when I found that other link and he was indeed a settler, a Jew and indeed a Rabbi and he worked to bring Palestinians and settler Jews together believing that they could live together in the Palestinian State.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Froman

    and here is a Palestinian working in the same way with settlers



    If you want to find more information try a search like

    The Field Palestinians and settlers peace
    and take the Haaretz article. Its a very moving story

    and indeed shows the reality that there is no reason why Palestinians and Jews cannot live in peace - except of course for those Israelis wanting an ethnic Nationalist state.


    wrong thread.
     
  15. Dutch

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    "President Trump has recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital. But a third of Jerusalem's residents are not Israeli citizens at all. They're Palestinians who hold Israeli residency papers.

    But according to an August report by Human Rights Watch, Israel has revoked the residency status of at least 14,595 Palestinians in East Jerusalem since Israel captured the territory from Jordan in 1967.

    Most of these revocations happened to Palestinians who left the city for an extended period of time"

    Here you go Margot. Not Israeli Arabs but Palestinians, and for a cause.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :wall:
     
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    are you really that naive?

    Israeli settlers throw stones at Palestinian cars, injuring 2 children

    Video Shows Settlers Throwing Stones at Palestinians in West Bank as Israeli Soldiers Watch

    read more: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.790883


    Israeli settlers throw stones at Palestinian homes in Hebron-area village


    Settlers Destroy Olive Trees in Nablus District


    HEBRON (Ma’an) -- Settlers destroyed dozens of olive trees belonging to Hebron villagers on Friday, a local committee said.


    Palestinian girl dies after being struck by settler car
    Israeli settler runs over Palestinian girl in occupied Hebron


    A Palestinian girl was left wounded after she was hit by an Israeli settler vehicle today in the southern occupied West Bank city of Hebron.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170720-israeli-settler-runs-over-palestinian-girl-in-occupied-hebron/
    Local sources told Quds Press that the 10-year old girl, Wijdan Faris Nasser Al-Jabari, was transferred to an Israeli hospital in Jerusalem for receiving medical care after she was seriously injured in the accident that took place in Wadi Al-Hsien area, near the Kiryat Arba illegal settlement in the occupied Hebron city.
    Incidents involving Israeli settlers ramming Palestinians in the occupied Palestinian territories have been recently common.[/quote]
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170720-israeli-settler-runs-over-palestinian-girl-in-occupied-hebron/

    Israeli settlers attack Palestinian home in Hebron with rocks, stun grenades
    Video: Israeli settlers attack Palestinians harvesting olives near Nablus
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/v...ng-dead-teenage-palestinian-hebron-2049519290

    https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779546

    I have somewhere on my computer an Israeli car advert from a few years ago. It showed how good it was to run into Palestinians. At that time this was quite a frequent ploy of settlers against Palestinians. The Palestinians even created a song about it and how it is now time for them to start returning the favour. After complaints the advert was stopped.

    and yes, knife just take vicious attack or gun.



     
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  18. Dutch

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    I'm not gonna hold my breath for your explaining how them Jews, not allowed to leave for Israel, nonetheless made all these Arab governments letting them go... what was the compelling offer the Jews made to these Arab governments?
     
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    I can give you an example from my mother in law:
    The town people headed by the police plundered their house, leaving them with nothing.
    They told the Jews 'next time we come we will take you life as well'.
    That night the whole family left the city.
    They walked including my mother in law who was a small kid from Iran to Israel only god knows how many miles through Iraq ans Syria.
     
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    And so did many hundreds of thousands of other Jewish mishpuchas, all over the Middle East. But, according to notme, ‘tis never happened.
     
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    Nope. Israel pays the Jew who leaves Iran 10K. That is how Iran is "ethnic cleansed".
     
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    It is incredible that your sense of entitlement makes you feel entitled to steal land! But you never could answer whether you would be happy in Israel without a Jewish majority! Not satisfied with the land now some Jews steal a culture as well!
     
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    Very funny, at the time we are talking about (late 40's beginning of 50's), the whole treasury of Israel was less than 10k.
    Israel was so dirt poor it could not feed the people properly.
    It created an austerity with minimal food calories was given per person.
    Eating meat was a celebration, it was too costly to distribute on regular bases.
    Yet Israel accepted all those hundred of thousands of refugees from all over the Arab world and gave them a place to live and prosper.
    While the 22 rich Arab countries did not accept a much smaller number of refugees and ask for money from the whole world until today to give their grandchildren.
     
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