Arctic sea ice loss due to global warming II

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  1. lolcatz

    lolcatz New Member

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    Dude our misson is not tho convince these AGW people that they are wrong. instead, look at it this way, you are putting the info out there fo other people to see, and use their reason to discern the truth...

    my theory is that these global warming nuts get some subsidy/money from Al Gore to deflect people from the "Deniers"... all you gotta do is keep proving that they are lying... you notice how every post i make, they never refute my claims, they just call me names?

    i know their games. i know their weakness...

    also just look at the view counts for the threads, and yet you see only a few select people refuting your claims... the high view count means that theres a chance that alot of people may have the lightbulb click, and become a denier themselves...

    remember, its an information war... the one with the most info wins...
     
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    Yes she does. It is the IPCC and the GISS that cherrypicks data and lies
     
  3. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No need to 'deny' something that just isn't there. 'Denialist' is a made up term.
     
  4. lolcatz

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    lol. very good point.
     
  5. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ya just like 'Global Warming' another made up term for a made-up problem. Socialists make up problems then 'solve' those made-up problems by taking tax money through research grants. It's a rip off. In this case (global warming) they have hit upon a scheme that will never be solved. The perfect government catch 22 and a real 'cash cow.'
     
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    The science is unequivocal. The skeptics finally accept that. Who's left to convince? Only those immune to evidence, the denial cult.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What 'science?' A circle-jerk 'consensus?...That ain't science.
     
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    More and more often I find those I am trying to debate also believe in:-

    Moon landings were faked by Steven Spielberg
    Obama was born in Kenya and smuggled back to America by his teenage mother in the hope that one day he would be president
    JFK was killed by Bill Clinton
    The Twin towers were demolished by genetically engineered termites that then exploded on command

    and finally

    Global Warming started when the Aliens stole Elvis
     
  9. livefree

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    You really have no idea what is going on. Something common to most of the anti-science denier cultists.

    "What 'science'?" you ask in confusion/delusion. I'll tell you. The evidence and data filled science that convinced many tens of thousands of hard headed scientists all around the world and left them quite sure of the reality of anthropogenic global warming. The science you don't understand and want to reject for political reasons.

    Scientific opinion on climate change

    National and international science academies and scientific societies have assessed the current scientific opinion, in particular on recent global warming. These assessments have largely followed or endorsed the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) position of January 2001 which states:

    "An increasing body of observations gives a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system... There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities."​

    No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion.
     
  10. lolcatz

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    LOL

    Theres a Hidden agenda in climate reform...
    Ive already pointed it out...
     
  11. RPA1

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    I am neither confused nor delusional and YOU are an insulting SOB.

    Yes there is a lot of data however, much of it is bad data. In fact it is so bad, computer modeling has to be employed to 'fill in the gaps'...You are blind.



    IPCC is lying right in your face and you can't even see it.

    Yeah because you summarily dismiss skeptics by calling them 'deniers.'
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agyjz9pZfB4&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agyjz9pZfB4&feature=related[/ame]
     
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    Ah! the Dunning-Kruger effect in action

    There is more and more evidence supporting the fact that those who cannot, will not or even should not (in the case of some of our members lol!) look at the science underpinning something will instead fixate upon the "personalities" related to the topic choosing those they identify with rather than what the message is

    Al Gore means little to anyone outside America and Lord Monkton is a British joke - the kind that Americans fail repeatedly to "get"

    Debate the science not the personalities
     
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    Nonsense, GW, AGW and CC are all science-fiction. IPCC is a joke.
     
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    Repeating a religious mantra doesn't make you correct.
     
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    Nor does repeating the GW, AGW, CC mantra which was the focus of my reply.
     
  17. lolcatz

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    LOL!!!!
    You climate people are funny. You claim this science is irrefutable, and then we prove it is refutable. Then you cry and call us conspiracy theorists. I prove that the climate reform is corporately funded and lobbied. you cry and call me a conspiracy theorist...

    This is why i always start my posts here with a "LOL"
     
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    The irony of this is that the skeptics are too.
     
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    Please do us all a favor, and provide evidence...
     
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    Off the top of my head, The Heartland Institute.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute#Funding

    There are plenty more but I'm not about to start digging. Anybody who has actually looked into both sides of this debate knows that it is true.

    Where is your evidence that shows every scientist/group supporting ACC is corporately funded?
     
  21. lolcatz

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    Wikipedia source is not gonna cut it. Gullible people may use a publicly edited website. The source cant be used.

    And, i already proven my point. you posted in the thread actually. But you probably, like a good slave, didnt read my posts. Instead you went on the attack, because good little slaves dont fight their masters...

    Here. is a thread full of my evidence... http://www.politicalforum.com/environment-conservation/214987-lies-deciet-climate-reform-movement.html
     
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    Wikipedia references its sources. Stop being lazy and click them. If you still don't want to believe it, refute them.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/global-w...nge-smokescreen/2008/08/01/1217097533885.html

    There are quite a few. That is just one....Either way, it is no secret that the Heartland Institute are funded by Exxon. That is common knowledge in this debate.

    Typical denier rhetoric.

    LOL!!! You are kidding right? Videos of Bill Gates, Monckton and three links that don't even work are your evidence? :-D :-D :-D

    EDIT: And lets not forget those youtube videos. You really are in no position to call people gullible.
     
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    And heres a little reading about why Wikipedia is not a good source: http://www.livescience.com/9695-rorschach-test-discredited-controversial.html

    LOL. Those links worked when i posted them. Ol AL Gore probably didnt like seeing his lies unraveled, so he took his ball and went home...

    And typical Denier Rhetoric? are you going to refute my claim with evidence, or are you just going to name call?

    Most of the Videos I post, are news stories. And the Bill Gates thing. Again, you probably missed the part where he mentioned Depopulation... Here it is:http://youtu.be/JaF-fq2Zn7I?t=4m34s

    Again, you may be blind. but to the rest of us, the truth is clear...
     
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    Your comprehension skills are poor. Wikipedia isn't the source. Read my above post again, refute the sources, come back.

    Had the links worked it would still be a measly amount of 'evidence'. As far as I can tell, the links were just articles in the first place. Hardly substantial evidence.

    Yeah, that isn't name calling. Ironically, you were the one calling me a 'slave'. I just pointed out how that is a very common tactic used by people like yourself.

     
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