Are Americans emotionally fit to have guns?

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Are Americans emotionally fit to bear arms

  1. No

    11 vote(s)
    30.6%
  2. Yes

    25 vote(s)
    69.4%
  1. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're wrong. There is no deterrence to murder because the murderer doesn't think he'll be caught. If thought he would get caught he probably wouldn't kill anyone.
    You think gun control is crime control and it isn't.
     
  2. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    30k people a year are killed by guns, but more than half of those deaths are via suicide. The rest are either murder or self defense which comes to about 13,000 of those deaths.

    Anyways 13,000 deaths by a gun, whether it be murder or self defense..........Yet there are 320+million people here with 300million guns in circulation and we only have 13k cases of either murder or death via self defense per year?

    Yeah I would say that it is pretty good that only 1% of the population is killed by a gun per year.

    If we were all (*)(*)(*)(*)ing psychotic like they are in Islamic countries then we would most likely be living in a crater. But, 99% of gun owners obviously are more than mentally stable to own a firearm.
     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Somebody inside your home is unfit to own guns.

    Maybe you want to tell us all who that is?
     
  4. Socialism Works

    Socialism Works Well-Known Member

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    Nobody in our house owns a gun, has no need or desire to own a gun.
     
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    It's not like the majority of gun owners are running around doing this. Those who do, are in the small minority.
     
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    Most of them, yes of course.
    Looking at it another way, we could say that anybody who doesn't have a gun for home protection is unfit to be a husband and father..;)
    "I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it"- Clint Eastwood
     
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    Why do you think this means anything?
     
  8. Socialism Works

    Socialism Works Well-Known Member

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    I was simply stating a fact about my household.
     
  9. Injeun

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    Our founding Fathers had knife fights and pistol duels. They bred and fought game roosters. They bred and fought the only American breed of dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier. They declared their independence from, then fought and defeated the most powerful nation on the earth. They wrote our Constitution and established our form of government. They surveyed, explored, and subdued the continent.

    So as I see it, what you are complaining about is that todays criminals simply aren't giving anything back. They lack culture, principles and honor. This begs the question, Do you believe that disarming the nation will lend culture, principles, honor and more to cretins? And if so, please explain the process somewhat. In other words, if I throw my gun in the smelt, will a cretin somewhere become whole and upright by osmosis? How does it work?
     
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    So you just wasted space. Good work.
     
  11. Socialism Works

    Socialism Works Well-Known Member

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    What on earth are you talking about?
     
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    Wrong question. Even if not, it would not tell us optimal policy. The most important thing people need to learn about policy is you do what works, not what sounds good. I have not seen evidence that gun control works. So it is ludicrous to sacrifice freedom for it.
     
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    Socialism is unemployed and collecting Welfare !
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    The thing is; Minor-ror-ities, Gangs, Drug Dealers are killing each other in turf Wars, Drive by shootings, muggings, robberies.
    These Crimes are not being committed by law abiding citizens with concealed carry permits, or Law abiding citizens, yet people with no expertise or experience with firearms, especially Foreigners question U.S. Firearms Laws based on those Criminals committing Crimes suggesting that taking away Guns from Law Abiding citizens is the way to reduce time, an absolute fallacy.
     
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    Sounds like Hillary's constituency.
     

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    Hate to be in your house if an armed intruder(s) came in. Unless of course you have a police department in your basement. I'm assuming you have a police department in your basement that will be there to take down the bad guys. Makes sense.
     
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    The assumption being those with guns don't obey laws, that's the only way you make gun owners criminals. I'm a gun owner. Everyone in my family owns guns. My parents owned guns. Given my ancestors were among the first Europeans who settled this country, gun ownership runs deep in my family. There is a roll for gun regulation. Some people shouldn't have guns. Violent criminals shouldn't own guns and suspected terrorists shouldn't own guns.

    Few, people are advocating banning guns. Democrats aren't advocating banning all guns. They aren't advocating confiscating everyone's guns as has been frequently asserted. Reasonable gun regulation is fine. My problem is that any regulation should be have a reasonable chance at fixing the ill it is intended to remedy. But that isn't always the case, and with respect to gun control legislation, that is frequently the case. Sometimes the solution isn't another law. Both Republicans and Democrats sometimes think they can fix every social ill with a law and that simply isn't the case. Not every social ill can be cured by making things illegal.
     
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    We are fortunate in the UK that gun crime is very low, especially if you discount gun crime perpetrated between drug dealers. Therefore reasonable security of doors and Windows is adequate defence against intruders.

    Even in the scenario you propose, what are the chances of the intruder firing first before I even know he's there?
     
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    Very low. 92% the homeowner fires first(might be higher now. this stat was from when I was in the police academy 8 years ago) of the time the homeowner awakens in the process of the break in. Most home owners don't live by the front door. Therefore, giving the homeowner the advantage if they keep their self defense weapon in their room. We drilled on safe ways to protect your home, as an off duty officer.

    (Background. That was the last drill I did with the academy. I dropped out because our division rejected paying me the difference in pay for my military training or deployment pay when called up in the National Guard. I am not a police officer now)
     
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    If you cannot trust your own people with guns, you sure as hell cannot trust them in any other area either.

    This is such a self serving elite mindset, that the common man is just too stupid to govern himself, and must have a wise elite to do what is the best for him. Except when the elites do this, as they are today, they govern only to serve their own interests, and to hell with everyone else.

    I am sure the people on top that want to take away the right to bear arms, are doing it to protect their own arses from the pitchforks, that are coming. But whether you get a pitchfork through the heart, or a bullet, both are lethal. Perhaps we need to have these loony tune modern liberals, ban pitchforks as well? Or any sharp instrument.

    I do not trust anyone who is silly enough to believe americans need to be treated like infants, by not allowing them to own guns, which is the equalizer of men. What some people think is good for me, is none of their damned business.
     
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    But you didn't reduce violent crime. Gun control is not crime control.
     
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    No one is asking you to get a gun.Your safety is of no concern to me. In what country does 'socialism work'?
     
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    The United Kingdom, since you ask.
     

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