Are corporations good?

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Are corporations good or bad?

Poll closed Dec 24, 2013.
  1. They're great. We can't do without them!

    36.8%
  2. They're good. We should keep them.

    15.8%
  3. They're bad. They hurt average working folks in the long run.

    5.3%
  4. They SUCK! They are choking us all!

    42.1%
  1. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

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    Honestly, the question is stupid. Corporations are neither good nor bad. Corporations are groups of people that work together to make money. That is their goal, and they will do what is most profitable, including things some will consider immoral, like using death squads or what not in latin america. But that behaviour is because of humans, nor because of corporations, and the challange lies with creating a system which punishes such behaviour and rewards that which we like. One must make a system in which people make money by doing good. Wheter the corporations are "good" is totally irrelevant.
     
  2. Riot

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    Sounds just like government
     
  3. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Which sounds just like corporate greedsters.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Corporations, like any other very powerful and influential institution within modernity, including modernity itself, are neither good nor bad, but simply tools that we use to accomplish ends. Criticising them for making money at the expense of social welfare is like criticizing a hunter for eating his prey while ignoring his killing of it. Making money is how we couple greed to achievement and accomplishment to ambition thus benefitting us all. As long as we do not let one override the other they are generally good. Suffice it to say they are also absolutely necessary to modernity and will have to do until something better comes along and I believe it is, quite quickly with Internet publishing growing by leaps and bounds and the imminent arrival of cheap 3d printers.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...printed-car-rolling-3D-printing-presses-.html
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those who are opposed to liberty in general will be opposed to corporations in particular.
     
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    I don't know anyone that doesn't buy things from them including all the people who voted "They SUCK! They are choking us all!"
     
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    you liberals should like cooperations instead of one person owning the business and receiving all the profits for himself it is a group some times a large group that owns the business and the profits are distributed amongst many
     
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    Neither and it depends on the corporation. Incorporating is a way of limiting liability when people go into business since the corporation is a separate entity.

    Anytime an individual works with another to offer a product or service a partnership is made. In a partnership, individuals can face lawsuits. Since lawyers flock to lawsuits like flies to manure, incorporating can serve as a shield from nuisance lawsuits. I don't really see anything inherently bad about corporations.

    If you really want to look for what's wrong, look to the outrageous lawsuits that plague our courts based on the pervasive liberal propaganda that everyone must be protected from everything.
     
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    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    You used the words "good" and "bad". These words mean different things in different contexts, but I am going to go with the moral conceptualization of "good" and "bad" in my response. Legally, a corporation is a person. Also legally, a corporation exists for one purpose: to make money. Now, if a person's sole purpose in life is to amass wealth, is that person morally good? My answer is no.
     
  10. Phoebe Bump

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    I look at most corporations like I look at Union Carbide in Bhopal, Monsanto, Dow, British Petroleum or ENRON. The CEOs aren't required to have a conscience and rarely exercise one. Corporations are not people.
     
  11. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    The Nazis ran much of the world too, at one time to . Doesn't mean they should be accepted. Corporations AREN'T people, my friend. They're legal rapists, who, unfortunately, own the country.
     
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    For profit corporations are inherently amoral.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    I would certainly agree on that but, more "immoral" than amoral, by their very nature.
     
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    Corporations are bad which is why the state should discontinue creating corporations. Arguing that we need government to protect us from corporations is like arguing that we need pigs to protect us from pigsties.
     
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    Everybody across America should call in sick tomorrow. Tap that 'bottom line'. Stop the profits. That will get their attention.
     
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    Wonder why nobody embraces this idea? Scared sheep, I guess.
     
  17. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Probably because it's a really, really bad idea which most people probably do not take serious to begin with.
     
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    How's that? What are they going to do? Fire everybody?

    So long as people keep running scared, allowing corporate Titans to do whatever the shell they want, nothing will change for the better. It takes change of lemming habits to accomplish beneficial change.

    You're right though..chicken sheet lemmings, completely happy getting azz raped, I guess.
     
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    Who are the people running corporations? If the answer is: people just like us, then we shouldn't criticize them, as many people are prone to seek profit without sharing their prey with others, just like big corporations. What if people changed? Would corporations change too?
     
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    Funny thread, howled reading it. Hating/fearing corporations in themselves is like hating hammers because Maxwell used a silver one to bang people in the head or hating plungers because you heard some cops shoved one up some poor guy's ass one time.

    Corporations may or may not be "groups of people." They may or may not be organized for profit. In actuality, more business today is done under the LLC form, but there is no inane leftist sheeple moniker like "corporatist" for LLCs yet so we are stuck in the past where irrationally hating on business entities is concerned. What corporations always are are fictional legal persons created solely by individual state statutes. Anything else one wants to definitively claim about them is subject to context and governing law within the jurisdiction where they are organized.

    Moreover, a vast majority of corporations and other entities are small affairs with none or few employees. When one ignorantly rails on about corporations as some focus of wrong in themselves, one is including the lady across the street who started a gift basket business and the plumber down the block busting his hump to get another truck and crew in service. Damn those heinous felons on your block! There should be a registry to alert the neighborhood to these scum living on your streets!

    But whatever, if anyone has any questions about what corporations really are and how they function, I will be happy to answer them in a general way. Or you can keep spouting out hilarity and absurdities that reveal your ignorance.

    Or you could always just single out wrongs as attributable to the individual or even groups of human beings who commit them as opposed to some faceless "entity" towards obvious, rabble-rousing propaganda purposes, up to you.

    P.S. Almost all the misdirected corporate hate in this thread is actually a plea for stronger antitrust laws or smaller central government.
     

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