Before I begin, I want to make clear that this post is in no way referring to or focused on any ethnic group. I just want honest opinions without sliding into a race debate. Hate crimes are defined in part as "Violent actions intended to hurt and intimidate someone because of their race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, or disability", and provides for "A steeper penalty than someone who performed the same actions without discriminatory animosity". It does not specify which of these is protected. So, why is an attack on any minority by a white person considered a hate crime, when the reverse is not? What about a fight between a Catholic and a Mormon? It just seems all the publicity and outrage is in defense of the minority victim. All crimes of violence are really hate crimes, cause why would a person want to harm or intimidate someone they like. Please jump in, I'd really be interested to hear other opinions. Thanx. Enjoy!
And yet you are making assumptions below based solely on that. What are you quoting here? Hate crimes are different at different levels and state to state. The national hate crime law doesn't say this. You are correct, because that doesn't matter. If the act is against a group and manifested in a violent attack on an individual, then it can be considered for a hate crime. (Black people fire bombing homes of white families who move into a traditionally black neighborhood for example) Here is where you go off the rails because this statement is a lie. On every level. It would depend on why they were fighting. No, public outrage tends to happen when there is a miscarriage of justice like in the Trayvon case when there was no police investigation. IN other cases, there is a clear attempt to attack a group of people and not an individual. Again, this is the ignorance of meaning behind the laws, and we probably need better nomenclature. A hate crime is a crime against a group of people, that may or may not be aimed a single individual. Like the crime of terrorism. If the mob uses a car bomb to kill a rough capo, it is murder. If an extremist uses a car bomb and targets Macy's on Black Friday and kills one person it is terror. If the Klan uses a car bomb in the parking lot of an AMC church on Easter Sunday and kills one person, it is a hate crime. Before lobbing opinions and asking for more you might want to start with facts.
I don't think hate crime laws are discriminatory. Blacks most definitely CAN be charged with a hate crime if they attack a white person because they are white. It does happen, though certainly not as often as the reverse. In 2011 20% of those convicted for hate crimes were black. Now, the enforcement of the law may not be done in an equal manner.
I'm not making assumptions below. I'm quoting from a definition off the Findlaw web site. You may be right about the group thing, however the definition deals with someone not a group. As for being a lie, you're entitled to your opinion. After all, that's why we're here in the first place. If you have stats on the reverse (minority vs. white), please share. Again, according to the definition, a hate crime is not a crime against a group of people, and again, please share any other definition you find. And I thought I was asking for opinions, not lobbing them. Anyway, if we all agreed on everything there wouldn't be a need for PF, and we would have to find something else to take up our spare time. Thanx for playing. Enjoy!
