Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?

Perhaps atheism can be considered a cult then?

 

Interesting! Can you please describe what sacrifices need to be made?

 

exchange their ipod for education
we have people that are forced to sacrifice their lives because we do not have the right to redress its a fantasy
the gubmint has structured law such that you have no way to turn, just like the politicians, seen any worth 2 pinches of ****?
If you arent in the big club you wont win.

 

Okay, I can understand the ipod idea....

but not the statement below...

Can you please explain?

 

Nice to see Christians who have no proof of god doing their immoral reverse onus onto atheists to prove the delusional wrong.

How stupid of Christians is that?

Very stupid.

Regards
DL

 

What do believers have as supporting proofs?

A talking serpent and donkey.

Say hi to them for me.

Regards
DL

 

The right to petition government for redress of grievances is the right to make a complaint to, or seek the assistance of, one's government, without fear of punishment or reprisals. The right can be traced back to the Bill of Rights 1689, the Petition of Right (162, and Magna Carta (1215).

Right to petition - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Right_to_petition
What does it mean to petition the government for redress of grievances?
In the United States the right to petition is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which specifically prohibits Congress from abridging "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances". ... the right of petition has expanded.

Right to petition in the United States - Wikipedia


The right to petition the guv is the right to find an equitable solution, an equitable solution does not include bankrupting the complaining party then solving the problem with sleight of hand.

The rev war was fought in great part due to this exact problem, same as we are experiencing today.


re·dress
/rəˈdres/
verb: redress; 3rd person present: redresses; past tense: redressed; past participle: redressed; gerund or present participle: redressing
remedy or set right (an undesirable or unfair situation).
"the power to redress the grievances of our citizens"

Fck you now get the fck out of here, your grievances have been addressed!

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Thanks, at least you have proven that you are clueless to the burden of proof process or reasoned logical argument.

 

A religious lie is attributing anything to a supernatural entity without proof or evidence.

If you need examples, google any religious telemarketer and just listen to the lies.

Regards
DL

 

a religious lie is anything false that an atheist states claiming the nonexistence of G/god without proof or evidence.

 

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Compared to those who follow a supernatural genocidal prick, I would say that atheists have more morality in their little finger that than the genocidal god lovers do in their whole tribe.

Statistics agree.

Regards
DL

 

Thanks much...I can understand what you mean by redress now....

but what people "are being forced to sacrifice their lives"?

 

yes I can agree that some atheists are more religious than deity believers, but not many, not from my experience.

I dont recall JC being attached to anything genocidal? Citation?

 

Hence the open door to inquisitions and jihads. God loves blood and do not dare show mercy.

Regards
DL

 

Better than stalin the atheists machine gun justice.

Show us this great atheist way to live? Citation?

 

But how can an atheist make a religious lie?

"Atheism is in the broadest sense an absence of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2][3][4] Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist.[5][6] In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.

 

More and more atheist/mystery schools/churches are opening up.

Do you see the atheist churches as valuable to atheists?

I also have this bit that you and Koko might find interesting.

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Since following an ideology is a prerequisite of religion, atheism can be considered a religion, since atheists draws on philosophical ideologies to guide ideas, behaviors, and actions, like that of any religion. That is why atheist churches are called atheist churches.


Atheists Are Sometimes More Religious Than Christians
A new study shows how poorly we understand the beliefs of people who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular.

Americans are deeply religious people—and atheists are no exception. Western Europeans are deeply secular people—and Christians are no exception.

These twin statements are generalizations, but they capture the essence of a fascinating finding in a new study about Christian identity in Western Europe. By surveying almost 25,000 people in 15 countries in the region, and comparing the results with data previously gathered in the U.S., the Pew Research Center discovered three things.

First, researchers confirmed the widely known fact that, overall, Americans are much more religious than Western Europeans. They gauged religious commitment using standard questions, including “Do you believe in God with absolute certainty?” and “Do you pray daily?”

Second, the researchers found that American “nones”—those who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular—are more religious than European nones. The notion that religiously unaffiliated people can be religious at all may seem contradictory, but if you disaffiliate from organized religion it does not necessarily mean you’ve sworn off belief in God, say, or prayer.

The third finding reported in the study is by far the most striking. As it turns out, “American ‘nones’ are as religious as—or even more religious than—Christians in several European countries, including France, Germany, and the U.K.”

“That was a surprise,” Neha Sahgal, the lead researcher on the study, told me. “That’s the comparison that’s fascinating to me.” She highlighted the fact that whereas only 23 percent of European Christians say they believe in God with absolute certainty, 27 percent of American nones say this.

America is a country so suffused with faith that religious attributes abound even among the secular. Consider the rise of “atheist churches,” which cater to Americans who have lost faith in supernatural deities but still crave community, enjoy singing with others, and want to think deeply about morality. It’s religion, minus all the God stuff. This is a phenomenon spreading across the country, from the Seattle Atheist Church to the North Texas Church of Freethought. The Oasis Network, which brings together non-believers to sing and learn every Sunday morning, has affiliates in nine U.S. cities.

Last month, almost 1,000 people streamed into a [Atheist] church in San Francisco for an unprecedented event billed as “Beyoncé Mass.” Most were people of color and members of the LGBTQ community. Many were secular. They used Queen Bey’s songs, which are replete with religious symbolism, as the basis for a communal celebration—one that had all the trappings of a religious service. That seemed completely fitting to some, including one reverend who said, “Beyoncé is a better theologian than many of the pastors and priests in our church today.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...theists-religious-european-christians/560936/

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Atheists are more moral and I like the fact that they are stepping up to try to teach others those better than god religion morals.

Go atheists go, --- as my fellow Christian religionists are homophobic, misogynous and immoral.

Regards
DL

 

you only need to look at the questions I ask that are typically ignored

 

by definition, it can not.

 

??

Why do you think people join religions/tribes if not to appease their selfish gene that wants the protection of the tribe, even in their miserable lie based lives?

Regards
DL

 

I also have this bit that you and Koko might find interesting.

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Since following an ideology is a prerequisite of religion, atheism can be considered a religion, since atheists draws on philosophical ideologies to guide ideas, behaviors, and actions, like that of any religion. That is why atheist churches are called atheist churches.


Atheists Are Sometimes More Religious Than Christians
A new study shows how poorly we understand the beliefs of people who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular.

Americans are deeply religious people—and atheists are no exception. Western Europeans are deeply secular people—and Christians are no exception.

These twin statements are generalizations, but they capture the essence of a fascinating finding in a new study about Christian identity in Western Europe. By surveying almost 25,000 people in 15 countries in the region, and comparing the results with data previously gathered in the U.S., the Pew Research Center discovered three things.

First, researchers confirmed the widely known fact that, overall, Americans are much more religious than Western Europeans. They gauged religious commitment using standard questions, including “Do you believe in God with absolute certainty?” and “Do you pray daily?”

Second, the researchers found that American “nones”—those who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular—are more religious than European nones. The notion that religiously unaffiliated people can be religious at all may seem contradictory, but if you disaffiliate from organized religion it does not necessarily mean you’ve sworn off belief in God, say, or prayer.

The third finding reported in the study is by far the most striking. As it turns out, “American ‘nones’ are as religious as—or even more religious than—Christians in several European countries, including France, Germany, and the U.K.”

“That was a surprise,” Neha Sahgal, the lead researcher on the study, told me. “That’s the comparison that’s fascinating to me.” She highlighted the fact that whereas only 23 percent of European Christians say they believe in God with absolute certainty, 27 percent of American nones say this.

America is a country so suffused with faith that religious attributes abound even among the secular. Consider the rise of “atheist churches,” which cater to Americans who have lost faith in supernatural deities but still crave community, enjoy singing with others, and want to think deeply about morality. It’s religion, minus all the God stuff. This is a phenomenon spreading across the country, from the Seattle Atheist Church to the North Texas Church of Freethought. The Oasis Network, which brings together non-believers to sing and learn every Sunday morning, has affiliates in nine U.S. cities.

Last month, almost 1,000 people streamed into a [Atheist] church in San Francisco for an unprecedented event billed as “Beyoncé Mass.” Most were people of color and members of the LGBTQ community. Many were secular. They used Queen Bey’s songs, which are replete with religious symbolism, as the basis for a communal celebration—one that had all the trappings of a religious service. That seemed completely fitting to some, including one reverend who said, “Beyoncé is a better theologian than many of the pastors and priests in our church today.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...theists-religious-european-christians/560936/

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Atheists are more moral and I like the fact that they are stepping up to try to teach others those better than god religion morals.

Go atheists go, --- as my fellow Christian religionists are homophobic, misogynous and immoral.

Regards
DL[/QUOTE]

Atheist 'mega-churches' look for nonbelievers

On Sunday, the inaugural Sunday Assembly in Los Angeles attracted more than 400 attendees, all bound by their belief in non-belief. Similar gatherings in San Diego, Nashville, New York and other U.S. cities have drawn hundreds of atheists seeking the camaraderie of a congregation without religion or ritual.

 

But if you read the info that Greatest I am posted, the atheists have their own churches now.
So...if not a cult...doesn't that sound like a religion?

 

What is keeping the average American so dumb?

You have seen the stats.

I think it is the right wings of both your religions and governments.

Some Americans are so dumb that they want creation taught as history in schools instead of our real worlds history.

Regards
DL

 

Logic and reason play havoc on supernatural garbage.

Logos always trumps mythos.

Prove me wrong, given that you think reverse onus is kosher.

Regards
DL

 

Even regular attendance can still be considered a ritual....as is anything else they might do regularly at every gathering.