Are the KKK liberal or conservative?

The currently ascendent Progressive-Fascist wing of the Democrat Party is not really a Left Wing movement, and Obama has governed more like a Extreme Right President, than a collectivist consensus leader.

But that is almost always true of the Extreme Left. They present a justification for their actions as being "For the Common Man", yet every action they take hurts the common people while it empowers and enriches the Party Elite. i.e. Stalin, Mao, and Lenin.

The Progressive-Fascists are NOT true-Left at their core, they are Fascists in Leftie Sheople-Skin coverings.

In any case, if you study the history of the KKK, during the times and places that they held real power in the United States, they were represented by, and often were members of, the Democratic Party.

This is a FACT of history, that the Democrat Radicals are trying very hard, hence this thread, to re-write in the minds of the American People.

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not sure where you get your info, but it's incorrect

 

Liberals support abortion, gay marriage, gay rights, hate-crime laws, anti-discrimination laws, immigrant rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, more govt. regulation, mor environmental laws, abortion rights, stronger limits on church & state seperation.

calling the KKK Liberal, is beyond absurd. its totally dishonest.

 

lol okay

 

You do realize condemning Israel is NOT the same thing as condemning Jews, right? Grow up

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Thats what helps them sleep better at night when they tell themselves that

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I believe its far more than just simple dishonesty, it falls right into the realm of propaganda.

 

Populist crazies aren't either left or right they are just crazy. Are people who believe 9/11 was an inside job leftist or are they just crazy?

 

Yes. The KKK was a branch split-off of the Democrat party. And those were not " right wing" Dems. They voted left on all major matters of the day.


But the idea is absurd , as you suggest. Did the librul media refer to JFK's assassin , LH Oswald as a " communist sympathizer" ? A " leftist' ? Which was TRUE?


Of course not. They attributed his murder to the Right wing climate of hate in Texas.

 

We dont like Israel dropping bombs on children = we hate Jews

Right Wing propaganda, plain and simple.

 

Failing to assign the moral responsibility for the bombs,e.g., hiding weapons among children , and firing indiscriminately on Israeli civilian populations, is left wing agitprop. Pure and simple.

The only reason Hamas bombs' didn't kill countless Israeli children was due to their fecklessness not intentions. Preferring war over peaceful co-existence is the moral choice of the Pal "leadership"

See my tag line.

 

The KKK are left wing on all major issues? So they are ok with abortion, ok with laws AGAINST hate crimes, ok with affirmative action, ok with immigration, ok with all of these left wing issues and even more? Absolute total bull (*)(*)(*)(*), 100% of it is complete lies. Anyone using their brain knows the KKK are right wingers, they are far from left wingers even they themselves would admit that. They HATE liberals guts. You claim liberals have white guilty surely as most right wingers do, so tell me, does the KKK have white guilt?

You are confusing White Guilt with White Pride my friend.

 

Yet most I knew still voted Democrat during my ten years in exile in Alabama. They were still under the delusion that the DP was the friend of the working man. As I said previously don't expect populist loons to make any sense.

 

I live in Texas, and when Mexico just even flew a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing helicopter over our border people in Texas went crazy and literally wanted to go to war with Mexico, they were even talking about it on this forum of course. The point being, imagine if Texas was surrounded by Mexico rather than America, and we were constantly at war and Mexico owned the Gulf Coast in Texas, therefore land locking us in making it a open air prison, do you think us Texans would give up even after we have officially lost the war? I dont think the people in Texas would EVER give up, especially not to Mexico. Hell, remember the Alamo? We would rather die than surrender, and its entirely possible the Palestinians have that same sentiment, just because they are brown doesnt mean they dont deserve to hold the same value as us Texans, many brown Mexicans fought and died helping us at the Alamo, race is not an issue.

 

Do you know the origins of the "left wing" and the "right wing"? Its a absolute historical fact the left wing are supporters of the working man and the right wing are supporters of the aristocracy. The "left wing" and "right wing" comes from France right before the revolution, the representatives of the poor masses sat on the left wing, the representatives of the aristocracy sat on the right wing. Today it is still the same, the left wingers support raising the minimum wage, obviously helping the working class despite the propaganda you spew, and the Right wing wants to entirely eliminate the minimum wage obviously hurting the working classes, again, despite the propaganda you spew.

 

Palestine isn't landlocked except by a grossly flawed psychology that seems to insist that Israel must surrender to them and submit to rule by them and the people surrounded on all sides are the Isrealis no the Palestinians.

 

So Palestine has absolute control over their ports? I call bull (*)(*)(*)(*)

 

Doesnt seem I addressed this issue initially but I see it now so I suppose I will, modern liberalism actually developed in the latter half of the 19th century, at the same time of the Civil War, I would argue it largely caused the Civil War by creating a huge ideological division within our populace between left and right wing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism
"By the end of the nineteenth century, the principles of classical liberalism were challenged by downturns in economic growth, a growing perception of the evils of poverty, unemployment and relative deprivation present within modern industrial cities, and the agitation of organized labour. The ideal of the self-made individual, who through hard work and talent could make his or her place in the world, seemed increasingly implausible. A major political reaction against the changes introduced by industrialisation and laissez-faire capitalism came from conservatives concerned about social balance, although socialism later became a more important force for change and reform."

That is how Social Liberalism was formed and essentially became the dominant form of liberalism.

 

I'm a LEFTIST, all I am after is getting paid! Like workers in the 19th century, as for the periferal, trivial shht...

abortion, support. But not a big issue for me.

gay marriage, OK with, not something that matters to me either way! It has irritated the crap out of me for years though, because it gets linked unfairly to my economic issues and the gay haters and religious crowd vote against econimics that will benefit them. So I'm glad it's getting passed so it gets out of the discussion.

gay rights, Sure OK with it, what rights do they still not have?

hate-crime laws, Oppose! there are already laws. I could be for it if they would charge minorities with HATE when it's clear they are guilty of HATE against a white person, which they often are! But they don't.

anti-discrimination laws, OK, as long as minorities and women don't get EXTRA rights or special treatment that white men don't have.

immigrant rights, indifferent. I do support basing entry on skill set, like not poor, uneducated people, only people that will pay for themselves.

higher taxes on the wealthy, TOTALLY AGREE 110%!!!!!

more govt. regulation, depends on what it is.

more environmental laws, No! More is not always better, I' be OK situationally to be like "The Greatest Generation" GET PAID, I'm Ok with drilling, pipelines all kind of anti-environment stuff! My issue is getting A MAJOR CUT OF THE PROFIT$!!! Sure drill for oil, destroy the environment, but use the profits to LOWER THE PRICE FOR ME or to PAY THE WORKERS WAY MORE or to HIRE WAY MORE WORKERS.

stronger limits on church & state seperation Agree

I am a LEFTIST, but more like the leftists who smashed the doors of the Kremlin and slashed the throats of the royalty inside to GET PAID!

 

Yes I do. The French Revolution. Lowering the minimum wage will not hurt the working class 95% of whom already make far more more than that. In fact it would help most of the by reducing cost of living. There is by the way no point in lowering since all it would effect is new hires. Raising it however before the economy has had time to adjust to the last hike won't do much more than harm other workers. Especially those who will suddenly find themselves making minimum wage.

 

The whole minimum wage issue doesnt exactly have a right or wrong answer due to all of the factors and different goals for each party, but it seems you at least concede that the right wing and left wing come from the french revolution, and the left wing supported the poor masses and the right wing supporter the aristocracy, correct? This question DOES have a right or wrong answer lol, its a historical fact, unlike the minimum wage which is a lot more blurry, again due to all of the factors at play.

 

They have ports therefore they are by definition not landlocked. Their own actions are why they do not have complete control over the the access to those ports. All they have to do is renounce violence against Israel, stick to it an live it and the blockade ends the next day.

 

I never said Palestine was land locked, aside from the West Bank of course, but I was talking about Texas. So, lets rephrase my example to skip your semantics game about being land locked, lets say Mexico doesnt take the Gulf Coast of Texas, BUT Mexico keeps Texas from using their ports the way Israel does to Palestine, you think the Texans wouldnt fight even after the war is over? You are either lying, or you have never been to Texas.

 

Well the main thing they supported then as now was the acquisition of power they claimed they would use it to help the poor but there is scant evidence that anything they did really helped the poor.

 

Right here on this board and all the anti-Israeli leftist.

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Who called them liberal?

 

My statement is just as correct as the statements from the left concerning conservatives, tell them to grow up. You do know condemning homosexuality is not hating gays, right? Grow up.

 

Actually, they do. For example, in 2012 (the last year the stats are out for), they prosecuted 756 people for racially motivated anti-white hate crimes- http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...d_known_offenders_by_bias_motivation_2012.xls