Are we being ripped off??

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  1. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

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    I have it on very very reliable authority that the cost of producing a carton of coke,
    including all packaging,every expense you can think of....

    is.....

    wait for it.......

    4c

    Not for one can......a carton of 24......

    4 bloody cents......
     
  2. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    AND they own Mt Franklins water - which sources (bloke at the pub) maintains is actually tap water based on the observation that although full vehicles are seen leaving the factory there is no evidence of any type of special water being brought into the factory
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Nothing new, that we are being ripped off.
    There is only one way, to bring the prices down:

    Don't buy this evil sugary crap !!!

    Regards
     
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    Didn't someone recently do a comparison between all this special expensive bottled water and ordinary tap water, and the ordinary tap water turned out to have more vitamins and minerals than the expensive bottled stuff. :roflol:
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    There was one company claiming it's bottled water was "organic" now considering the original definition of that term was
    one can only say Errrrrkkk!
     
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    You can always make your own cola type drink.
     
  7. Bowerbird

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    Why bother

    What I would really really like to see - especially in light of the nutritional warnings related to them - is more alternatives that are NOT so sugary. Try asking for a sugar free cold drink at a coffee shop or restaurant. I have taken to drinking "Virgin Bloody Marys" when I am out but not everyone drinks this. Golden Circle have come out with a 50% less sugar fruit drink that is better and far lower sugar content then many other "no added sugar" fruit drinks
    http://www.rethinksugarydrink.org.au/how-much-sugar
    Why has products like Iced tea got ANY sugar?

    http://www.rethinksugarydrink.org.au/facts

    http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Sugar

    You know if you asked someone to eat 16 teaspoons of sugar at one sitting they would gag but we (well I don't but other do) drink that much in one bottle of soft drink
     
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    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    There's nothing wrong with cold water. We always have a big jug of cold water in the fridge which gets drunk and refilled at least twice a day. For something a little more exotic fresh squeezed fruit juice and soda water is good, soda water on its own is good for something a bit less bland than straight water. I feel sorry for all these kids (and adults) I see walking around with bottles of soft drink in their hands. When I was young a bottle of soft drink was a treat you had to share maybe once or twice a week. Soft drinks today are chemical cocktails, the sugarless varieties probably worse that than the ones with sugar.
     
  9. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

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    Thanks for all the nutritional advice folks...personally, I drink orange juice and home filtered water...
    But the OP is regarding the huge rip-off...not the nutritional aspects...???
     
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    The water alone would cost 2.34 cents. Then there's the syrup, the cardboard, the aluminum, wages, advertising, state and federal taxes.

    I guess it's possible, but I doubt it. maybe if you just add up the cost of materials - then again, if you add up the cost of materials a Ferrari costs a few hundred.
     
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    mister magoo New Member

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    My informant works for Coke....
     
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    Fair enough, but that's not really solid evidence.

    If true, patents are at fault. Let individuals use their own property in whatever way they see fit - someone else finding a use 'first' doesn't mean (*)(*)(*)(*). Allow competition and prices will drop.
     
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    The point I was making in the OP was that if Coke can rip us off, all the others...Schweppes and all the others...
    They are all ripping us off with the exorbitant markups...
     
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    Yeah, alright - assuming that's correct, I just offered a solution ;)
     
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    Is that including the costs associated with installation of machinery, maintenance, wages and distribution cost etc?
     
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    Ill get back to you on the machinery costs, but maintenance and wages are....distribution costs are not included...
     
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    I know for a fact that years ago when a can of soft drink was 20 cents to buy, the cost to the manufacturer of producing one can was 2 cents.
     
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    : Coca-Cola Is 5 to 1 Water
    And the parent company only produces syrup
    And areas are owned by franchise

    When you add up to shipping and handling and bottling
    Two men can run A automatic bottling plant Including stacking the cases
    4ยข seems low
     
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    Unless regulated
    Prices are set as High as possible Taking into consideration demand and competition On most products
     
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    As I said, don't buy this crap for a considerable time and prices will fall rock bottom. Then you know the real value.....
     
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    Try NOT buying it. You are in the supermarket it is hot as hell outside and you want to buy some water - at the checkout is a refrigerator full of cold drinks - you bypass the coke and the Mount Franklins to pick up a "pump' only to find that it has "make by Coca Cola pty ltd" on the the bottle. Coke has market share because it supplies refrigerators free of charge to cafes and businesses - fridges that do not comfortably fit any bottle but theirs
     
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    And how much does your informant say that coke wholesales to the store for?

    The reason fast food in the states are always pushing soda is because their only real expense is the cup and straw. Those fountains probably use 2 cents worth of product.
     
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    Is that purely the cost of the raw materials? What about the million square foot warehouse, the machines that cost several hundred thousand to buy, the gas in the delivery trucks, plus profit for coke, their distributors, wholesalers, and retailers?
     
  24. mister magoo

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    No, the 4c per carton is merely for the manufacturing costs, not inclusive of any purchase price of equipment, and not inclusive of delivery costs...just production costs...my informant is a senior quality control manager...

    - - - Updated - - -

    Im talking about cans..not fountains
     
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    Well, as someone pointed out, the cost of the raw components of a Ferarri are a tiny fraction of the cost of the finished product at retail. That's how things work.
     

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