Are you a white nationalist?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by AltLightPride, Aug 22, 2019.

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Are you a white nationalist?

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Are you a white nationalist?"

    I am white but I am not a nationalist. However, I am from Malmö and my country is being systematically destroyed by thousands upon thousands of migrants from the Middle East and North Africa. If you don't know the details just ask me. The upshot is that I have been voting "right"-ish because they are the ONLY ones ready to stop the migration. So, although I'm no "nationalist" I do appreciate my own culture and I do not approve of it being ravaged. I will continue voting nationist until the scum is subdued.
     
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    Civic nationalism, also known as liberal nationalism, is a form of nationalism identified by political philosophers who believe in an inclusive form of nationalism that adheres with traditional liberal values of freedom, tolerance, equality, and individual rights.
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    Wikipedia › wiki › Civic_nationalism
    Civic nationalism - Wikipedia
     
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    I'm white, and a nationalist, doesn't make me a white nationalist.
     
  4. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is the 'PC' term for promoting national sovereignty and opposing globalism, if not nationalism?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mahatma Gandhi is perhaps the most widely recognized figure of the Indian Nationalist Movement for his role in leading non-violent civil uprisings. ... Back in India, he decided to employ his newly learned ways of civil protest in his homeland that was staggering to attain freedom from the British rule.Apr 25, 2017
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    The Nationalist Movement In India And The Role Of Mahatma Gandhi ...
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so lets see, we've got Tibetan nationalists standing up to communism, no cries of racism from the left. Indian nationalists stood up Brittish imperialism, no cries of racism from the left. Americans want to have borders, sovereignty and balanced trade deals and OMG HITLER IS BACK!

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  8. AltLightPride

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    Again, Hitler disagrees with you. From my link :

    "Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income."

    "Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism"

    "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil."

    "The National Socialist Revolution has not aimed at turning a privileged class into a class which will have no rights in the future. Its aim has been to grant equal rights to those social strata that hitherto were denied such rights."


    So he clearly defines socialism as a collectivist class struggle against the bourgeoisie.


    Oh, and before you double down on the silly argument of "Hitler changed his mind and redefined socialism as loyalty to his people later",

    "All the more so after the war, the German National Socialist state, which pursued this goal from the beginning, will tirelessly work for the realization of a program that will ultimately lead to a complete elimination of class differences and to the creation of a true socialist community." (Speech for the Heroes' Memorial Day, 21 March 1943)

    This is from 1943. 1943.


    So if that's true your whole argument is just an opinion from disgruntled quitters and has nothing to do with Hitler's beliefs.

    That level of arrogance after being proven wrong is astounding.
     
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  9. Thingamabob

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    One of the many problems, however, is that the split was left to Lord Mountbatten who hastily drew some lines on a map to separate India and Pakistan(s). The result of that blunder is still being felt to this very day. Mountbatten paid with his life (eventually) but it was by proxy efforts.
     
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    OKAY...……..
     
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    Hitler didn't nationalize any companies...…..

    Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews. In 1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal socialist activity" in 1936.
     
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    1. NazismSocialism - California State University, Northridge
      www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html
      Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews. In 1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal socialist activity" in 1936.

    2. Was Adolf Hitler a Socialist? - thoughtco.com
      https://www.thoughtco.com/was-adolf-hitler-a-socialist-1221367
      Twenty-first-century commentators like to attack left-leaning policies by calling them socialist, and occasionally follow this up by explaining how Hitler, the mass murdering dictator around whom the twentieth century pivoted, was a socialist himself.
     
  13. Liberty Monkey

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    Stalin was though and he killed ten's of millions.

    Socialism is a cancer that only truly stupid closet racists believe in.
     
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    Nationalization was point 13 of the Nazi party's program.

    He didn't actually nationalize them, but what he did instead was establish total state control of all private industries by having business leaders chosen for their loyalty and held accountable to the government.

    He alwo took possession of all Jewish businesses.

    Wrong. He outlawed COMMUNISM. Typically referred to by the words "Marxism" or "Bolchevism".

    In fact he outlawed every political party but his own.

    So he persecuted some socialists therefore he's not a socialist?

    Okay, by that logic Sunni Muslims persecute Shia Muslims, therefore Sunni Muslims are not Muslims.
     
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    You should probably be more thorough in your studies. He confiscated Jewish businesses, he didn't nationalize them.
     
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    Did you support refugees taking over Palestine?
     
  17. AltLightPride

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    Yeah, it's just the government taking possession of businesses by force to install people handpicked for their loyalty who report to them as leaders.

    But that's not nationalization, totally different.
     
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    Hitler immediately began rounding up socialists and communists and putting them in Dachau and/or killing them.
     
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    Catholics have rounded up Christians and killed them during their conflicts with Protestants.

    Therefore Catholics are not Christians.

    This is literally your logic.
     
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    Don't play headgames with me.

    1. Was Adolf Hitler a Socialist? - thoughtco.com
      https://www.thoughtco.com/was-adolf-hitler-a-socialist-1221367
      Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them. At first this involved organizing bands of thugs to attack socialists in the street, but grew into invading Russia, in part to enslave the population and earn ‘living‘ room for Germans, and in part to wipe out communism and ‘Bolshevism’.

    2. Adolf Hitler was not a socialist - Vox
      https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/18283879/nazism-socialism-hitler-gop-brooks-gohmert
      Mar 27, 2019 · Adolf Hitler was not a socialist A Republican representative described Adolf Hitler as a socialist and compared Democrats to Nazis. Sadly, Rep. Brooks is far from alone in his opinions.
     
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    That's called logic. Sorry if you can't handle it.

    Your sources don't even hide the fact that they're left-wing propaganda. So they have zero historical value.

    Are you seriously saying that the opinions of modern day leftists have more value than Hitler's own words from many quotes during over 20 years?
     
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    **** no; I'm a patriot from London so, IDK, world city and whatnot; Chinatown was somewhere else I think, but I know where ever it was, it had opium dens; today my country isn't white, it's diverse. Immigrant to this country or born here, this is the UK, I'm from the big city, so it's really all I know.
    I'd hate for it be white nationalist of black nationalist or Islamic state or any single thing, instead of the patchwork it is of different neighbourhoods in my country/region/where I'm from.

    My part of London, South London, 'land of the chicken shop.'
     
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    Oh hey, we've got one. White nationalists are at 2.9% now.

    So you who voted yes, what are your views exactly and how did you come to embrace them?
     
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    NazismSocialism - California State University, Northridge
    www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html
    Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews. In 1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal socialist activity" in 1936.
     
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    BOOM!!! Truth bomb!
     

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