Are you at risk of being radicalised?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Bowerbird, Mar 23, 2019.

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are you at risk of being radicalised?

  1. Not in a million

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  2. Anyone could be

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  3. I did not realise how easy it might be

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  4. I will happily join if it means I can continue to hate those I dislike

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  5. There is no such thing as radicalisation outside of certain religions

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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    Norway has many restrictions on gun ownership. Switzerland not so much but it has historically low crime rates.
    The EU does not have a unified policy on gun control. Each member nation decides it's own gun laws.
    All of these nations have tighter restrictions on gun ownership and much lower murder rates.
    The homicide rate in the US is 4 or 5 times higher than that of the UK and mass shootings have been virtually eliminated here since Dunblane.
     
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    I haven't seen any threads sympathetic to the ideology of Islamic terrorist. I've seen a few threads and posts sympathetic to the ideology of white nationalist terrorist. There's at least one thread defending this killer's manifesto, for example. Or you could take a look at the second post on this thread to see another example.

    You're poorly contrived "maybe" is false.

    To date, I'm not sure I've seen a more desperate red herring anywhere in the forums. I'm not responsible for your failures of reading comprehension. Please read. I've never blamed all white people for anything. I'm white. I've never blamed all conservatives for anything. I've never blamed all liberals for anything. I've never blamed all birthday clowns for anything.

    I've specifically, and repeatedly, refuted such logic on behalf of both liberals and conservatives, on behalf of both Christians and Muslims.

    You might want to question what caused you to associate "white nationalists" with all white people. Not all white people are ethno-fascists. Most aren't. Those drooling trolls are a minority among white people.
     
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    Because they are the one's acting on their distaste.
    Which terrorist act comes to mind of the antigun crowd?
    The anti tax crowd?

    What actually makes them more prone to terrorism? Only the individual knows that, but one who usually commits such acts of cowardly murder are those who are distant from real society.
    So actually, any of your group you listed can be prone, but as of late the nationalists are the ones doing much of the acts of death.
     
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    Innocent muslim extremists? LOL.
    Like innocent white nationalist extremists?
     
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    Well obviously.
     
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    Lol, that wouldn't be funny if there wasn't some truth to it. I was once told by a progressive concerning 9/11 - "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." Hmm, not sure we wanna go down THAT road, but okie dokie.
     
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    All part of the demonisation of people who like to lock their front doors at night.
     
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    How many Christchurch's has there been? Where a non-Religion of Peace-ist killed a bunch of Relgion of peace-ists? I hadn't realised there had been others
     
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    There have been a few where non-Muslims specifically targeted Muslims, but I was referring to white nationalist terrorist attacks overall, not just white nationalist terrorist attacks against Muslims.
     
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    Ah yes .. the defense of the indefensible was almost deafening, at times. Now watch 'em squirm when anyone says anything remotely in defense of the NZ shooting. It's tragically, horribly, laughable. Like children who can't keep track of their lies.
     
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    An example of such a thing, please?
     
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    I don't know Timothy McVeigh's motives(racist or otherwise), but would he be an example. He didn't attack another race, but a government building.

    Idiots are going to idiot, whatever their motive. Stomp on them as we find them.
     
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    Dylan Roof, Frazier Glenn Miller Jr, Buford O. Furrow, Jr, James von Brunn, Robert Gregory Bowers, James Alex Fields Jr., Wade Michael Page, Tim McVeigh, Adam Purinton, David Pedersen, Holly Grigsby, Alexandre Bissonnette, and Anders Behring Breivik. Those were some of the successful ones. Then there are several other terrorists who were stopped before they could carry out their attacks.
     
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    McVeigh was one of them. He was partly motivated by The Turner Diaries.
     
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    In what sense was he a white nationalist or whatever?
     
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    All of these where some kind of Cultural Supremacists? Driven by an agenda?
     
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    I didn't say supremacist. I said nationalist. Supremacists like to hide behind claims of "separatism" and "nationalism," so unfortunately I have to make the distinction.
     
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    Right. So was this NZ shooter a 'nationalist'? It's all very confusing.
     
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    He was a white nationalist. What's confusing?
     
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  22. Bowerbird

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    You HAVE to be joking!!

    We have had stormfront refugees on this board inciting hate

    Take off the rose coloured glasses
     
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    What makes you say he wasn’t? His manifesto was clear
     
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    I know nothing about the guy. I have ZERO interest in his 'motivations'. He was a murderous lunatic, and that's where it stops for me. I don't defend the indefensible, not ever. Doing so would make me almost as bad as him, and a dangerous ideologue.
     
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    McVeigh was at least partially motivated by The Turner Diaries, a book in which a white nationalist militia overthrows the US government.
     
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