Are you embarrassed yet?

Are you embarrassed to actually believe dailykos.com?

 

Greed is when you think you should be able to get the benefit of things you didn't earn from others who did. That too is selfishness at an advanced level, as it lacks any morally redeeming principle.

 

You must mean the majority of Californians, right? 30 states to 20

 

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I've been embarrassed by the behavior of the left/lib/progressive people for many months now. Everything is personal attack, defamation of character, slander and/or promoting ideas that invariably hold that everybody is entitled to things they didn't earn because- they exist. Part of the core is to assault the humanity of those they disagree with or want to take from or threaten their freebie agenda, because it is easier to do the kind of crap they do when you have re-defined the target as sub-human. This is perhaps the lowest motive and tactic one can imagine, something you expect from a punk grade-school bully who needs a trip the the woodshed. They are Americans? Wish they would realize that Americans should have higher principles than that. You are what you make yourself to be. IF you have character and self-respect, you don't behave like that.

 

Reading this thread, I am embarrassed for the children of every liberal who is involved in this 2017 massive temper tantrum. The innocent children of the snow flakes can't choose their parents. They are the real losers of this election.

 

if you look at the facts more millenials dislike trump than their parents.

 

Millenials? The lazy generation of whiners and complainers? The generation of Iphones and handouts?

You're citing them as your reference of choice?

haha

 

Nope I just stated a fact

 

Other countries are just as embarrassed with their liberal entities as we are with ours. They have been a huge problem throughout the world for a long time. Protesting can be good but not the way it is happening today. Berkeley is a perfect example of what the liberals have become. Of what they want to portray. Hopefully they get a reset and get back on track before it goes further. Free speech is important. Different viewpoints are critical but violence to get what you want should bring the full measure of the law down on these anarchists.

 

So reward people for living in cities, poor and on the public dole and punish people who live on 100 acres? You just can't see how easily that can be exploited can you? Apparently plenty do, since all those snowflakes were yapping about how unfair the EC is this time around. Even, learned scholars were showing how truly insane they are as well, wanting to toss the EC out.

 

If you see this as rewarding or punishing people...you are living in an alternative universe.

I think every person's vote should have the same weight...but I have acknowledged that the Constitution works things out the way it works them out...and whether I think it fair or unfair means diddly squat.

So...?

 

Trump voters want more power per vote than their opposition. They love the fact that our nation is set up to give them more voting power than citizens in another state. They actually believe that a citizen in California should have a fraction of the voting power that they enjoy simply because they live in Wyoming or Alaska. Now we are talking about the most powerful state in the nation, the richest, the largest economy, arguably the most beautiful, the state that gives us and the world it's technology, its food, its media, music. They think the contributions of a rancher in Wyoming is more important than a person writing code for Apple, an engineer who designs routers or operating systems or databases. A farmer in Iowa should have more power than a farmer in Fresno. This is madness and it will end badly.

 

Yes. The EC is only a problem when it works against you

 

Maybe.

But just don't forget our definition of "inane" and "moronic" are diametrically opposed to yours and your pals.
And you and your leaders have proven (sadly) there does not appear to be a thing we can do about it.

 

You seriously need to wake up and smell the flatus. It is the "Establishment" that is destroying this country and they are made up of two colors - Red and Blue - and take their marching orders from the Establishment Oligarchs.

They hate the constitution and individual rights and freedoms - the principles on which this nation was founded. They hate fair and free markets. I can go on at length about the left but you seem to have that covered so I will focus on the right.

" Libs hates America" First I think you should figure out what the term "liberal" means (check out Classical Liberalism) but, I digress.

Who is it that is cowering in a corner begging to give individual rights and freedoms/liberty - the freedoms for which so much blood was shed.? Have you never heard the slogan "Give me Liberty or Give me Death".

Here is another "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary security deserve neither liberty or security" B.Franklin.

What do you think these folks would say to someone who suggested it was their "Patriotic Duty" to give up those freedoms ?
A.K.A - The Patriot Act.

The founders and the freedom fighters knew well the age old trick of using fear to take away rights and freedoms. It was nothing new in their day and it is nothing new in ours.

Stalin added a new chapter using fear of a foreign threat to take away liberty and freedoms. He called his program "Security for the Motherland"
Hitler did the same "Fatherland Security"

Bush also used fear of a foreign threat to take away individual liberty. Lacking the smarts to come up with a new name, Bush called his program "Homeland Security"

The reason the founders put individual rights and freedoms "ABOVE" the legitimate authority of Gov't was not to protect us from Bin Laden or the Russians. It was to protect us from our Gov't.

They knew that power corrupts and more power corrupts more - especially in the hands of Gov't. This is one of the reasons (the social contract being the other as per the tenets of classical liberalism - not to be confused with the modern usage of the term liberal) that Gov't power was to be extremely limited.

Limited to what ? Only acts which are injurious to others - direct harm one person on another.

I do not blame the Red cowards for hiding in the corner - 12 years of school and they manage not to teach the basic principles on which this nation was founded - but that is another story.

The power of Gov't was to be limited but, for 200 years Gov't has been trying to get that power back and they have succeeded - and Red has been a big part of this success.

After Bush came Obama - Obama (bless his Harvard Constitutional Law and civil rights background) change the name of the Patriot act to the equally Orwellian doublespeak - "Freedom Act". Talk about 180.

The head of the NSA lies to congress about illegal activities (spying on US citizens) - a felony- gets caught ( thanks to whistle blowers) but somehow manages not to get punished and keeps his Job. The attack on the whistle blowers under Obama was like never before. Transparency decreased to all time lows.

Obama's justification - compare to the B.Franklin quote above - " if we want increased security - we have to give a little" (give a whole lot of individual liberty rights and freedoms)

What happened to "give me liberty or give me death" Perhaps Obama skipped out and went Golfing the day that was taught.

So now we have Trump - Mr. Law and Order. Mr. Lets give Gov't/Police more power at the expense of individual liberty - after all we need more security do we not ? Transparency ? (need to keep the enemy guessing)

Sorry to burst your bubble but is the people (on both sides of the fence) that support this this continued trampling on the Constitution and the principles on which this nation was founded that "Hate America".

You need to take the log out of your own eye before trying to hack out the log from the liberal eye.

It is this blind partisanship that is killing this country.

 

If you can cite an election result when the GOP won the popular vote but lost the EC count then do it. Until then, you have nothing to say in the face of cold hard facts.

 

You mean like the EC performing exactly how its supposed to? You really have to get over it. Both our candidates LOST. I voted Libertarian and you voted for that abomination in a pants suit. Grow up. Grow a pair and move on. Thems the facts!

 

You would think democrats would be ashamed by now.... Petulant children.

 

Excuse me? Where did YOU see Obama mentioned in that post?
An ALTERNATE POST perhaps?

 

As a woman how could you have voted for that narcissistic lowlife degenerate with the temperament of a 10-year-old, the impulse control of a 4 year old and the moral compass of a severely wayward teen? Really, I'd like to know how you can justify it, especially if you have female children. Is this the sort of man you would want your daughters dating? If not, how can you want him for your president?

 

OK then. I sincerely hope you are still as euphoric once this country is a fascist state and you aren't allowed to voice your opinion on forums like this.

 

I wouldn't want my daughters dating Hillary (or Bill for that matter). Would you?

 

I would suggest you do a bit of reading. Trump couldn't even make a success out of a casino. He has not ever actually succeeded in business, he has just had the resources to take the losses and continue on because daddy left him a ton of money.

Trump made 4 billion dollars in 40 years, when an index fund started at the same time with the same "small loans" he received would be worth $12 billion today... without a trail of bankruptcies, thousands of lawsuits and burned small business owners. Yep, he's a real business whiz.

 

Well said. It's always nice to see some intelligence shine through the brainwashed, muddled responses on this forum.

 

Yea, OK. Get back to me when that happens under Trump. Under liberal a regime, I'd worry. I mean, they seem to have no problem disallowing options THEY find offensive or even disagree with. Liberal's, as we've seen recently, will even resort to violence when their little sensitive feathers are ruffled.