Arizona Christian pastor celebrates the "good news" of the Orlando massacre-

http://www.mediaite.com/online/watc...brates-the-good-news-of-the-orlando-massacre/

Keep in mind, that despite all the self-righteous posturing...and denials?

That YES there are CHRISTIANS who call for the killing of gays or cheer it on.

Just last year, Ted Cruz, a major Presidential candidate, was introduced at a political rally by Kevin Swanson, a Christian pastor, who minutes earlier had called for gays to be executed.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...on-of-gays-then-introduces-ted-cruz-on-stage/

Cruz of course claimed he "knew nothing" about what Swanson had said at the time.

 

a Christian does not support it. Keep in mind, gay is not who you are but what you do. Christians love the person and work with them to overcome the sin (gay sex)

This self-professed pastor does not represent Christianity.

49 innocent people were killed and many more injured at the hands of a Muslim terrorist. The guy in the video if he said those words and isn't out of context is nothing but an ass-hat and is NO pastor except in his own mind.

 

Still trying to peddle that talking point, huh? The trouble with your premise is that Christians had nothing to do with a Muslim (might I add Democrat) terrorist murdering all those people and injuring an equal number. That was all on HIM and the PC environment we live in which doesn't allow law enforcement to do its due diligence. Libs using Christians is a despicable thing to do, but so typical. Dream on...

 

They may call themselves 'Christians' but they're not true Christians. Those people use Christianity only for their own convenience.....and there's a lot of them out there.

 

Isn't it funny how, in the aftermath of a Muslim terrorist (who was allegedly a homosexual) who killed almost 50 homosexuals in an Islamic terrorist attack, progressives are scraping the bottom of the barrel to try and demonize Christians?

They can't bring themselves to condemn Muslims who are killing homosexuals, here and in many other parts of the world, so they continue attacking Christians, the politically correct enemy for the left.

 

Obama can't even say radical Islam.

 

When you align your party with society's rejects and mentally disabled, eventually you're going to have whacko's attacking sicko's and racists attacking nut jobs and you will not be allowed to choose a side between any of them without being destroyed by the community you didn't side with.

 

1. Yes, we ALL know why you believe "You're not gay, even if you have gay sex fantasies...as long as you don't have actual gay sex."

2. I cited TWO Christian pastors who say "Good, glad they're dead" or "We should shoot gays"....yet ONE Muslim commits an act, and "All Muslims are guilty".....what's the SINGLE standard?

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What "talking points"?.....I present facts.

Anderson celebrated the deaths in Orlando....Swanson said that gays should be executed...right before he introduced Cruz.

Those are facts.

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"No True Scotsman"......fine....but keep the same standard for Muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

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I condemn Muslim who kill homosexuals.....I condemn Christians who celebrate it or call for gays to be executed.

You only do the first part, Brewskier.

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Hillary did.....you going to vote for her?

(Here's where you say "No" and thus show that "saying Radical Islam"...means nothing to you)

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Who are the "sickos", Thirty6?

 

To blame white Christian males is to invoke white privilege. Plus, how can they blame a gay, muslim liberal brown person with a mental illness? So they pivot and ignore actions while condemning just trollish talking.

 

Lots and lots of Muslims were celebrating as well. Are you equally outraged?

 

See, according to the logic that Islamaphobes apply to Muslims, what we should do now, to be consistent, is demonize all Christians for the words of these two morons.

Which, of course, is idiotic. Just as it is idiotic when applied to Muslims.

The actual rational approach is to condemn extremism wherever it occurs, and not try to tar the larger group with the actions of the extremists.

 

Swanson runs Orthodox Presbyterian Church which is very big in homeschooling.. and he's also a supporter of Scott Lively who traveled to Uganda to preach and promote kill gays legislation.

This is not a joke nor a small group of crackpots.

 

Show me any thread you've made since this attack where you condemned Muslims.

(Watch this, folks).

 

If a religious leader of any of the current major religions supports the killing of innocent people they are not following the true interpretations of their faiths. Those two pastures are heretics and should not be listened too. The same goes for ISIS clerics or Hindu fanatics.

 

Having a brown-skinned, Muslim, homosexual (and reported Democrat) as the villain in this story makes middle-aged white progressives feel really "icky". They need to shift the narrative back to something that involves a white, Christian, bigoted villain. They will feel much more comfortable, then.

 

Was he evil because he was a Muslim or because he was gay or because he was brown....

or was he evil because he had a mental illness?

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If they were.....yes. Where did you see all those "lots and lots of Muslims celebrating"?

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I condemn both him and Mateen.

Have you YET condemned Steven Anderson or Kevin Swanson???

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I just did. I condemned Mateeen.....now it's your turn.....so do you condemn Anderson and Swanson?

Or did you want me to condemn ALL Muslims...as you moan and complain about people blaming ALL people of a religion????

 

So, just so we're clear, you have not made a thread where you condemned any Muslim since this attack took place, correct?

I can answer that for you. You've made 2 threads since this attack, one attacking the "anti-Muslim right" and one attacking Christians. Sounds about par for the course in the wake of a large Muslim terrorist attack.

 

He's a heretic. Same with the Westboro Baptist Church going around with the God Hates (*)(*)(*)(*) signs.
These are not Christians. They may claim to be but it is a false representation of the faith.

I'll explain the basic Christian tenet on sin.

The wages of sin is death.

What is death in Christian terms?

The separation from God.

There is no denying Scripture regards homosexuality as a sin, however to interpret Romans 1: 32 as a call to kill the homosexual is a radicalized, if not heretical, interpretation of the intent.

The wages of sin = death

Death = the separation from God

Christians are not called to enact God's wrath by killing the sinner, my goodness, we're all sinners if that's the case we'd all be subject to a death sentence.

 

No kidding.....as I had said there's a LOT of them out there who use the label of "Christian" to push their own personal beliefs that is NOT true Christianity.......

 

You're giving Gorn what he wants. He wants the board filled up with anti-Christian discussion right now. You know why? Because a Muslim, homosexual, Democrat just committed the largest mass shooting in US history. He doesn't want people talking about that, because he'd rather have the villains in every story be white, conservative, Christian types.

 

question how many Muslims where there that celebrated the same Muslim Terrorist attack? I bet you didn't bother to look that up did you? but you sure in the hell found the needle in the hay stack to find one or two Christians that did

And about Ted Cruise and Kevin Swanson Obama sat in Rev Wrights church for 30 years and claimed he never heard any of the many hate filled anti-American racist rants and we supposed to believe that but we aren't with Ted Cruise that never once had any association with this Kevin Swanson?

 

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The evangelical right believes in calvinism. In summary, it's the theological idea that if something bad happens to you, you deserve it. That is to say, God is punishing you. You are correct, this is definitely not a "small group."

 

He doesn't care how many Muslims celebrated the attack. He wants to get off the subject of "Muslims" completely. They are a protected left-wing Democratic voting bloc.

 

He was evil cause he killed 50 people, just as Dylann Roof was evil for killing 9 people. Who the victims were doesn't intensify how "evil" the act was. The causes of why the person killed doesn't intensify how "evil" the act was. What is known is the left sure went after "the south", "rebel flags", "blamed all white people", said it was the start of a race war, and claimed Dylann as the most evil guy on earth. The left condemned the cops for taking Dylann to jail instead of the morgue. Left claimed "if he was brown, he'd be shot dead instead of handcuffs.

 

We saw many anti-Roof threads, for sure. Where are all the progressive threads condemning Mateen? Most of the ones I've seen have been nothing more than redirection attempts, apologizing for Islam, or arguing that his motivations weren't religious at all.