Arrest Netanyahu in London!

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  1. Gilos

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    Israel lets 14,000 tons of building material into Gaza. April 2015
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/04/29/Israel-lets-14-000-tons-of-building-material-into-Gaza-.html

    We should see new housings any moment now......unless ofc they used it for tunnels again.

    Underground war? New Hamas propaganda video shows allegedly rebuilt Gaza tunnels. Aug 2015
    http://www.rt.com/news/313756-hamas-rebuilt-tunnels-video/

    They do use the word "allegedly" alot because its RT but it is what it is.

    Archaeologists do.., maybe you should read a bit
     
  2. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not the way I read it. Besides, wasn't it revenge killing for the three teenagers supposedly murdered? Way over 2000 civilians, including over 500 children, is not trying to avoid civilian casualties... it is dead-on purpose out of blinding hate!
    Wrong! She stood well in the visual field of the driver. The driver knew she was there, as well as others. Don't try to alter the facts.
     
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    The Libyan stick in the ass wins all....
     
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    Under international law, it is illegal to intentionally target civilians. Israel did not do that.

    Israel was targeting Hamas, not the people.

    It's not Israel's fault that Hamas tries to get as many Palestinians killed as it possibly can.

    She was trying to stop one of these behemoths.

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    Do you really think the operator could see much of anything?
     
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    Well, since they spend the money on rockets and tunnels, no wonder they get reduced to rubble occasionally.
     
  6. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    14 000 is nothing, perhaps a few bombed houses could be repaired. It must be so depressing for the Palestinian people, knowing it will be destroyed again.
    Aren't you, an Israeli, not the least bit ashamed of how you treat the indeginous people, how you robbed their land, how you harass and degrade them on a daily basis? Can you not understand that they, too, like to live in freedom and prosperity? For what reason, other than hate on your part, do you despise them? What on earth have they done to you Jews?
    Perhaps you should come off your high horse and show some humanity to your neighbors.
    Archaeology is a hobby and can wait, but these people need to be taken care off and given a new means to support themselves in peace and with dignity. You, Israel, could for once show the world you are not only takers but can give, too. Here is your opportunity!
     
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    14,000 Tons = 28,000,000 pounds (12.7 million kilograms)

    They elected a terrorist organization to lead their government and they have kept that terrorist group in power for the last 9 years.

    They aren't the indigenous people. They have been there for a long time, but that doesn't make them indigenous.
     
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    And Israelis elected occupiers and land thieves as their government of choice. What's your point?



    Er, no, they really are the indigenous people. I'd like to see your argument to the contrary.
     
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    Indigenous - "originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native."

    Palestinians do not meet that definition.
     
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    They certainly do:

     
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    At this point, the argument hinges on what percentage of Palestinians are descended from Arabs who migrated there and what percentage are descended from people who lived in the region prior to the Muslim conquests. I'm operating under the assumption that the majority are descended from the former, but you're going with the latter.

    Since there is no definitively settle the argument, we might as well end it here.
     
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    I'm going with the latter because the Arabs generally preferred to not mingle in the cities that they conquered.

    Either way, the Palestinians are far more "indigenous" to Palestine than the Western Jews, who really have nothing to do with the country.
     
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    Source?

    The Jews were there first. They got driven out and then they came back.
     
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    I honestly don't remember the university textbook I read it in. I'll look for it though.

    Yes, some Jews got driven out, and the rest (except for a few) converted to Islam.

    They came back, yes, but it was much too late.
     
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    The U.N. is led by small country terrorists and dictators. It has zero credibility.

    Libya leading the U.N. committee on human rights? Hahahaha .....
     
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    LOL Yes ... why am I not surprised ... any organization that conflicts with your cherished fantasy belief system automatically has zero credibility.

    You know who has no credibility ? Those who make claims but can not back them up. Its you who has no credibility.
     
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    If you can't see that the West is morally superior to radical Islam, you are lost. Moral equivalency is intellectually bankrupt and very dangerous.
     
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    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/07/binyamin-netanyahu-uk-visit-denounced-letter-war-crimes
    "The authors point to the results of a UN inquiry into the 2014 Gaza war, which found that both the Israeli armed forces and Hamas were responsible for possible war crimes. During the conflict in July and August of last year, Israel carried out 6,000 airstrikes and fired 50,000 tanks and artillery shells, killing 1,462 Palestinian civilians, a third of them children."
    As an occupying power, Israel can't claim the right of self-defense during its latest installment of Mowing the Lawn in Gaza; Bibi deserves his day in court along with many other leaders in the "moral west."
     
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    I never claimed otherwise. To claim that US foreign policy is not morally bankrupt is laughable.
     
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    our secular government is better then any government run by a religion
     
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    I would agree completely. But our values are rooted in the Judeo-Christian tradition.
     
  22. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    O.k., that sounds like a lot! But do they get nails and screws, too?
    Freedom fighters are terrorists to you?
    Of course not! The Jews came first as Adam and Eve!! But now they hit and beat and murder their own "children" like no tomorrow!
    Don't worry, I'm getting off this platform, but first I want to let you read an interesting story....

    "Take for example Canadian policy. The present government in Ottawa perpetuates the "us and them" narrative for both Palestinians and Aboriginal people.

    In service to divide and conquer strategies, Ottawa supports illegal Israeli settlements in Palestine and unrestricted resource exploitation on Aboriginal homelands. Their logic is that Aboriginal people and Palestinians have inferior land rights, their cultures are backward and violent, and they are both disappearing peoples.

    Conveniently, Ottawa sides with Israel, the colonial power. To challenge Israel's claim to legitimacy would undermine Canada's own dominion over Indigenous nations. The result is that the West Bank continues to shrink in size and viability, while Gaza has become the largest Indian reserve in the world".

    :smile:
    http://rabble.ca/news/2015/02/connecting-palestinian-and-indigenous-peoples-struggles-freedom
     
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    99% of the time, our intentions are good. Sometimes we mess up. That's a lot better than some countries that don't give a rat's a$$ about what's good and intentionally seek to cause chaos every time.

    Looking back at the wars of the last 15 years, the results were not always positive. We naively thought the Middle Eastern Muslim countries were ready for democracy. We overestimated them. As it turns out, they're still tribal and living in the 8th century. We goofed.
     
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    It probably took a few thousand screws to build those tunnels.

    Terrorists are freedom fighters to you?
     
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    Nuremberg.
     

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