Articles of impeachment.........so far.

Biden is not running for president.
He is running for the nomination of a private corporation, the DNC.

 

That last ... your expectations are a bit high for this forum. Just sayin'.

 

Nothing?

 

Irony sometimes goes in circles, doesn't it?

 

Here is an idea, where as we just keep fighting amongst our self. Which our government loves. Lets only post with actual law, code and title,or constitutional that was broken and why you think so.

 

A lot of those charges are via criminal code, either state or federal. Since apparently the Justice Department says that a sitting president can't be indicted, much of that will have to wait until he leaves office. That's what he's really panicking about, you know. First, he feared not winning reelection, now he fears impeachment and not winning reelection, which means he'll be out of office before the statute of limitations runs out. Handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit may be waiting . . .

 

Articles of impeachment.........so far. Bupkis.

 

What a crock. You keep making pronouncements based on nothing.

But hey...prove me wrong. Show where anything says any of that

 

Nahhhh...a Dacha outside Moscow.

He'd want the Black Sea but Putin won't go for it. His usefulness will be gone by then

 

I’ve heard this a lot lately. Why don’t you cite the relevant passage from the constitution? If you could it would certainly help your argument.

 

It's just a House rule

 

An inquiry doesn't require a vote. They inquire, then write articles of impeachment, which then go to the floor for discussion/debate and a vote.

 

See above, comment 38.

 

Can you show us that rule, please? Because I don't think a vote is required until the articles of impeachment have been written.

 

The dem clown show isn’t holding an official impeachment inquiry. They are being pressured into holding a vote for an official inquiry.

 

Those are the impeachable offenses that we have definitive and indisputable proof. But I have a feeling more will be coming from the financial records that are being subpoenaed.

 

Most of those were committed before he was President, so they are not High Crimes. He will have to answer to the courts about them. We will know about emoluments when we see the financial records that have been subpoenaed.

 

I disagree. I don't think Trump is smart enough to flee. He actually believes he's done nothing wrong.

 

Then maybe you'd like to explain how the House began its impeachment inquiry of Nixon before a full House vote was taken?

 

Yes, the Justice Department says that a sitting president can't be indicted. The DOJ also lists no crimes they say Trump has committed.

 

The Constitution clearly implies that impeachment is a matter for the whole House. Then long standing House rules say the whole house has to vote to conduct impeachment hearings.

 

see my post #47

 

I said cursory inquiries are OK, not against the Constitution or House rules, and probably necessary. So it's a matter of degree and judgement. At least in Nixon's case they had something halfway solid to begin with... something at least more that wishful thinking and fantasy. In Johnson's case they had solid proof because Johnson ignored a law Congress had passed knowing it would be ignored -- a setup, but nonetheless solid. In Clinton's case they had clear and known violations of the law which would warrant looking into to see if an impeachment proceeding should be had.

 

Recently, Pompeo tried to defend Trump's July 25th phone call. He is caught between a rock and hard place, defending Trump vs. his career. He sounded pretty ridiculous.

"And America tries to advance its interests around the world,” he said, adding, "It’s totally appropriate. Right? Isn’t that right?” Pompeo asked. “Yeah, it’s totally right.”

“Nations do this,” Pompeo said. “Nations work together and they say, ‘Boy, goodness gracious, if you can help me with X, we’ll help you achieve Y.’ This is what partnerships do. It’s win-win, it’s better for each of us.”

Only trouble is Trump wasn't talking about nations. He was talking about himself.

First, he brags up what the U.S. has done for Ukraine after blocking military aid to Ukraine days before the phone call. Zelensky then says Ukraine wants to buy Javelin missiles. Trump replied, "I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it."

Trump has set up the quid pro quo. First denying the military aid. Then saying how generous American can be. Then asking for a favor.

Pompeo was listening in on the phone, and he pretends he was oblivious to all this when he says, “We know exactly what we were doing there. We were trying to create a situation where it wouldn’t be a corrupt government. We wanted to make sure that they didn’t interfere in our election in 2016. (HUH?) We wanted to make sure that if we underwrote Javelin missile systems — something that the previous administration refused to do — we wanted to make sure that we were doing this with a government that was straight-up, and would use that money for the things that it said it would use that money for.”

The only problem is the only corruption Trump mentioned was corruption involving his political campaign.

Right after asking for a favor, according to the transcript sent by the White House, Trump says, "I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it."

Crowdstrike is a fallacious far right conspiracy theory suggesting Ukraine interfered in our 2016 election for the Democrats, not Russia for Trump. This is news to Americans who never heard from Ukraine during the election campaign, but Russia was deeply involved.

Crowdstrike was a rouse, a misdirection, and a common Trump tactic to hide his real purpose. Next he got down to the real purpose of the phone call.

First he tells Zelensky how his atorney general and personal lawyer can be of enormous help in the investigations. Then he says, "The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

He then adds, "I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it out. I heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor so good luck with everything."

The prosecutor was a Russian sympathizer, and the U.S., EU, and the IMF all wanted the prosecutor gone.

Crowdstrike and the Bidens were the only corrupation Trump mentioned.

We know exactly what we were doing there. We were trying to create a situation where it wouldn’t be a corrupt government.

Pompeo best reassess his priorities, or his political career is over. The worst mistake he can make is assume Americans are stupid.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

https://www.politico.eu/article/mike-pompeo-donald-trump-ukraine-phone-call-athens-corruption/