As I said, it is BEHAVIOR, not RACE that gets you shot by the cops...

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  1. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    http://www.people.com/article/uanrmed-honors-student-fatally-shot-by-long-beach-police

    Here we have a young honor student on his way to college who decided to try mushrooms. He walked through a second-story window, failed to comply with the responding officer's instructions, allegedly threatened the officer, and is now dead. He is not black. He was shot by the police. Shot dead.

    Your behavior is the singular contributing component to the outcome of your law enforcement encounter -- not your race.
     
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    Nope.

    It's race.

    And cops are not so special that you have to comply with all of their orders. Acting strange is no justification for being shot.
     
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    i suppose akai gurley was shot because his "behavior" of walking down the stairs was a threat to the officers life?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Akai_Gurley

    Why are you so desperate to protect racist cops, do you think non-whites don't deserve the same rights as you?
     
  4. Bow To The Robots

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    What evidence do you have to support this ridiculous position?

    When the man with the gun tells you to get on the ground, you get on the ground. You can argue about it later. You're right, acting strange is no justification for getting shot. But when you threaten a cop, or act in a threatening manner around a cop, you're probably gonna get shot.
     
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    racial profiling.
     
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    racial profiling is a good thing ,it works,all police forces in the US have it in constant use,because it does work and is a critical tool...
    racial profiling is not racist,it is common sense,facts and truth
     
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    Accidental shooting.

    Nobody is defending racist cops. We are defending cops who are falsely accused of racism by you and your pals on the left.
     
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    No--------its behavior. Obey the law, and if stopped by the police do what they say.
     
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    more republicans advocating for a bigger police state lol, Id like too know exactly when racial profiling by the police ended in republican minds? was it recently?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :wall:

    Is the best response you can get from me. Can I have some of what you're smoking?

    On a second thought, not!
     
  11. Yepimonfire

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    It goes beyond race. I've seen it happen to whites. It's nothing more then an overpowering police state hellbent on control and power.

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    But wait, i thought they wanted small government? Why are republicans so hard to understand?
     
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    That's the ideal. We don't always live up to the ideal.





     
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    Racial profiling. Perhaps at times it may be a good thing. DOJ stats show blacks committed 52.5% of all homicides from 1980-2008 while they only make up 12.6% of our population. Also 93% of all homicides blacks committed, their victims were black.

    So it stands to reason if a black in a black community gets murdered, it would be wise to racial profile and go looking for a black man who probably committed the murder. Or do you want the police to start looking for a white guy when 93% of all murders in the black community are committed by blacks.
     
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    *shrug* Because the folks trying to understand them are Democrats?




     
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    You ever heard the saying you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride? Let your lawyer sort it out and get you a nice fat settlement check, don't be an idiot and refuse to comply because it will get you shot. Shall I post some stories of unarmed, non compliant white men shot by black cops? Would that help to illustrate the point?
     
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    Those don't matter.
     
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    yep and thats what most republicans say then they get shocked when someone accuses them of being racist
     
  18. Bow To The Robots

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    That's not an answer. It's just a phrase. Now, let's have an answer.

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    Don't take my word for it... Here, listen to what this fella has to say. He's got some really good advice in here.

    [video=youtube;uj0mtxXEGE8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8[/video]

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    Whatever, Uncle Tom.

    /sarcasm.

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    His post had nothing to do with racial profiling? WTH?
     
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    Actually it is an answer, just one you won't accept.

    How about the fact that there is a disproportionate population of blacks to white in prison and jails? How does that grab you?

    About that many laws in this country are actually targeted to control minorities, such as anti marijuana laws?

    How about that?

    No, it's not behavior. It's the fact that they are different and don't blend in well with whites which is what attracts so much attention.

    Whites become more complacent when people seem or sound like them. They are also far more forgiving of people they like, and who are like them, than anybody else.

    Otherwise there wouldn't be so much partisan sniping for things like "HYPOCRISY! BIGOT! RACIST!" and so on.

    People never hold their own to the same standards as they demand of others. Never.
     
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    How about compliant? http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/05/28/police-shoot-kill-grandfather-while-responding-to-burglary-call/

    Guess what? It's ILLEGAL TO SHOOT PEOPLE WITHOUT IMMINENT DANGER TO LIFE OR LIMB! Can I shoot non compliant people? No? Then why can police? They can't, even the law says they can't. Do you not understand or something?
     
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    okay what about tamir rice who was shot for playing with a toy gun?
    [video=youtube;oW-XE10epVo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW-XE10epVo[/video]
    http://gawker.com/video-cops-shot-12-year-old-two-seconds-after-arriving-1663814827

    or walter scott who was shot in the back 8 times, then the officer planted a taser on him, now how many people wouldve been defending this peice of crap tooth and nail if there wasn't video footage?

    [video=youtube;8nrqFaSRclc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nrqFaSRclc[/video]

    well unfortunately there is no record of police killings so we no idea how many were killed by cops.
     
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    Because they do and say two different things, their conclusions aren't based on actual data, and most of their ideas contradict one another. I am not a democrat. I am not a republican.
     
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    You're being lazy again. Make an argument, support it with facts, and be prepared to defend it. "Racial profiling" is not an argument.

    I would say that is probably because the statistics factually illustrate that blacks commit disproportionately more crime.

    So, wait, it is only illegal for blacks to smoke the pot? :eekeyes:

    How about it. You are off your rocker.

    This kid in my story isn't black. Now he's dead. Another theory shot to (*)(*)(*)(*)!

    FFS man... who's the real racist here???

    Here's what I've learned in this thread... The World According to Tram Law: It is only illegal for blacks to smoke the pot; only whites are partisan. Call us when the shuttle lands, will you?

    Well that's just about the biggest load of complete (*)(*)(*)(*)ing horse(*)(*)(*)(*) I've ever heard.
     
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    ... hm.



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    If you stop and think about it. if a black man is murdered and the stats show that 93% of the time the murderer was black, shouldn't the police naturally take that as a starting point. By doing so, they would only be wrong 7% of the time.

    The reverse is also what I call apparent. 84% of all murders where the victim is white are committed by another white. So if the police start off looking for a white man they would be correct 84% of the time, wrong only 16%.

    So profiling in the above instances makes sense. Especially if the black victim is killed in a black section of town and or the white in the white section of town.

    Now if you consider that as being racist, I can't help that. I think it is more along the common sense line of thinking. It's a numbers game.
     

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