As Ohio restricts abortions, 10-year-old girl travels to Indiana for procedure

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  1. doombug

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    I believe they are referring to Plan B.

    No one is forcing anyone to do anything.
     
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  2. The Ant

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    Ahem…..and so does a little honesty…!

    Romeo and Juliet laws by state:

    Romeo and Juliet Law Florida
    1. The victim must not be below the age of 13 years


    Romeo and Juliet Law Texas

      • The minor must not be younger than 14 years
    Romeo and Juliet law Oregon
    • The age difference is below three years
    Romeo and Juliet law New York

    • victims are younger than eleven years old

    You’re welcome….! So, when YOU want to know about US law……..just ask a “foreigner”…!

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:






     
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    Well currently the line where most people find it perfectly alright to draw the line, is between the stage of an embryo and a fetus.
    I dunno how you think it's more or less convenient for that "created person" before or after that stage.
     
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    We have 50 states and it's mich more complicated then cherry picking three states :)

    Statutory Rape: A Guide to State Laws and Reporting Requirements | ASPE (hhs.gov)
     
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    It's legally unclear if both are under the age of consent: https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/can-a-minor-be-charged-with-statutory-rape-35215

    Is It Still Possible for a Minor to Stautorily Rape Another Minor?
    Unfortunately, the answer is not clear and will depend largely on one's jurisdiction. As described above, in states where there is a different age of consent versus age of majority, minors over the age of consent are typically able to be charged with statutory rape for anything occurring to minors under that age bar. Other states have tried to use existing laws to charge minors who were closer to the age of consent than their partners with statutory rape and have experienced varying degrees of success.

    For the most part, prosecutors dislike attempting to charge a minor with the statutory rape of another minor when that act was consensual in fact (even if not in law). This is due to the fact that it is hard to prove the activity occurred, hard to justify why both minors are not equally charged for the same act (or both seen as the victim), and difficult to obtain a conviction with changing social norms finding such activity among teens more acceptable.
     
  6. HonestJoe

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    Not true. Most conventional forms of birth control have a 99% effectiveness rate assuming perfect use. In practice, the effectiveness is typically 90% or lower. Accounting for multiple contraception methods, plus the few that are more effective in practice, 1 in 50 doesn't sound unrealistic. (https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/contraception/how-effective-contraception/)
     
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    it should be mandatory that plan B is included in all rape kits, but many anti-choicers are against that
     
  8. Condor060

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    NOWHERE in your link does it claim 50% effective. Not one single method.
    Sorry, your post (proved by your own link) is not true
     
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    1 in 50 wouldn't be 50% effective, it'd be 98% effective.

    Regardless, I was primarily correcting your statement that birth control pills are over 99% effective (which doesn't cover all reasonable forms of birth control anyway).
     
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    I'm giving you hard numbers. We have lots of studies as to the reasons for mothers killing their own unborn babies. Again why do you hold the position that because of the 1.5% of mothers killing their unborn babies due to rape, even though avoidable, justify the other unrestricted 98.5% of mothers killing their unborn babies?
     
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    There is no possible way you could read that into what I said. Please be civil and withdraw it.
     
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    this is what you said "There is no need for a woman who is the victim of rape to become pregnant"

    how does a rape victim have a choice in this?

    this is what I thought you were referring too, if you support plan B and that was what you were referring too, I apologize for the confusion

    "Earlier: Akin: 'Legitimate rape' rarely leads to pregnancy"

    https://www.politico.com/story/2012/08/akin-legitimate-rape-victims-dont-get-pregnant-079864

    "He said, “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”"
     
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    I believe the rights must be sufficient to protect against DNA manipulation. I'm not down for abortion, gene editing, addicting the fetus to drugs, or assaulting the fetus by striking the mother. Abortion isn't my only concern regarding the rights of the unborn.
     
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    From YOUR source….


    • Minimum age of victim. This is the age below which an individual cannot consent to sexual intercourse under any circumstances;
    Perhaps you might point out the section that would permit your scenario of a 13 year old boy having sex with that 10 year old girl………hmmmmm??
     
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    Well nowhere are you mentioning the well being of the woman / girl is somehow relevant.
    Rather typical of the anti-abortion crowed to regard a woman as an object.
    Maybe you should check how much paid parental leave women get in Sweden.
    Or actually, pick a random country and odds are sky high they got some pay.
    It's quiet different than the spit in the face mentality in the US.
     
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    So in all your wisdom, if they are both the same age, then what, flip a coin :wierdface:

    See this is the sort of mind rot people welcome from devious articles as we see in this thread! First of all, rape is never mentions in the OP article, AND ANOTHER I found with the word rape in the title NEVER mentions the word rape in the very same article this OP has linked :)

    You've become a master at Romeo and Juliet law, preparing yourself for the UNKNOWN and the suggestion made by the author of this thread LMAO Until you find some information on the donor this issue is just "Days of our live" or some other drama induced made up the script with people making stuff as needed to fill in the gaps ;)
     
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    Medication to prevent her from ovulating and becoming pregnant due to the rape.

    Now withdraw what you said about be claiming a rape victim having a choice about the RAPE itself.
     
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    It doesn’t matter whether it’s a crime. The girl still didn’t consent, under the law.
    She’s 10 and Ohio Republicans want to force her to carry to full term unless she meets a specific exemption.
     
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    I already said, if you support plan B, then I apologize as I misunderstood you when you said "There is no need for a woman who is the victim of rape to become pregnant"

    I also support plan b, in fact, I think it should be included in all rape kits, don't you agree?
     
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    Yeah, I suspect there is going to be a huge increase in reported rapes where there is an exemption for rape.
     
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    what choice?

    was this 10 year old even offered a choice of plan B?

    was it too late for plan B by the time people found out she was pregnant?
     
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    I don't worship allopathic medical practices so you can't support the implication that I said they are some heroic public service.

    That's how jobs work. People do what they are supposed to do and they get to live indoors, have heat and buy food. What is your point (or do you not have one like most Trumpers)?
    So, why did you try to differentiate this type of medical service provider over any other medical service provider? You don't have to tell me. I know the answer. Ask yourself that.
     
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    I'm not entirely sure they know the definition of "force" because some have been claiming they are being "forced" call transexual people by the "wrong" pronoun. They have yet to explain HOW that is happening. I've been FORCED to call one person by a specific title in my entire lifetime and that's only because she's a psychopath. My mother told me that she wished she had aborted me and she is not my "mother" so I was required to call her Mrs. <married last name>. I have yet to meet anybody else that demanded I call them by a specific name or pronoun.
     
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    if abortion is ok for rape victims, then it should be ok for everyone
     

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