As Ohio restricts abortions, 10-year-old girl travels to Indiana for procedure

I never claimed the risks for a 10 year old and a fully grown adult were close.
It doesn't matter if you support it or not. According to you a doctor can decide

 

Your comparison is ridiculous. If a meteor of that size hit earth we would all know about it first hand. How would you know about whether a ten year girl that you don't know is pregnant or not. Now if a meteor strike hit a house on the other side of the world and someone said it happened what reason would I have to doubt it?

You really should attend a class on simple logic

 

How many states are looking to or have already banned any treatment after conception? There are already issues being brought up that IUD’s are being potentially banned.

 

There is not a state in the union in which a girl cannot get medical care. Name one.

 

"any treatment"? none of them.

 

I am certain that you do not have the complete lack of integrity that would be required to twist medical care to mean anything besides what we were discussing for medical care of abortion so here is a list for your convenience
https://www.guttmacher.org/article/...r-bans-heres-what-happens-when-roe-overturned

 

Yes and according to Ohio law, if the act of child birth is life threatening to the mother, she can get an abortion.

 

Any birth to any woman can be life threatening

 

it would have to be a reasonable risk. not in a small percentage point of risk. No I would not support the claim that because it is technically possible a woman can die from child birth, we should then always grant an abortion.

 

What is the risk threshold parameters for allowing an abortion? How do you define reasonable risk in law?

Yes it is a grey area hence why any law against abortion cannot be governed. You either ban it or you don't ban it. Many women would not even know they are pregnant at 6 weeks

 

Sounds like the bill adequately defines that

 

You said "medical care". If you mean "abortion" then say abortion. And abortion is not medical CARE it kills an innocent human life that is not CARE for that life.

Abortion is not health care: Why the abortion industry embraces scientifically absurd euphemisms

"Abortion. Is. Health care," emphatically proclaims NARAL Pro-Choice America. That group is not the only one who says so.

Defenders of abortion often call it "health care" or "reproductive health care." They routinely use the term "abortion care." They say abortion is a "medical procedure" and call drug-induced (non-surgical) abortion "medication abortion."

This use of terminology should strike everyone, including those who support abortion, as simply ridiculous.

The purpose of health care is to preserve or restore healthy functioning. Merriam-Webster provides this definition: "efforts made to maintain or restore physical, mental, or emotional well-being." Medicine, similarly, is defined as "the science and art dealing with the maintenance of health and the prevention, alleviation, or cure of disease." Medication and medical procedures are about treating illness.

So is abortion health care? Is it medicine?

In rare and tragic cases, such as ectopic pregnancy and uterine cancer, correcting a pathology threatening a pregnant woman's life entails removing her unborn child—even though that child may not be able to survive. These situations are not at issue in the abortion debate.

At issue, rather, is what is sometimes called elective abortion or "direct" abortion. To be a form of health care (or medicine), it would have to "maintain or restore" health. But the pregnancy that abortion ends is not a disease. On the contrary, pregnancy indicates that the reproductive system is functioning properly. It shows reproductive health, not disease.

And what is abortion itself? Direct abortion is the intentional killing of the living organism in utero. It is an attack on health and life. It is literally the opposite of health care. It is anti-medicine.

"[T]here is no possibility of denial of an act of destruction by the operator," explains prominent abortion practitioner Warren Hern. "It is before one's eyes. The sensations of dismemberment flow through the forceps like electric current."

"Abortion is killing. Nobody can argue with that," abortion practitioner and clinic founder Bertran Wainer acknowledges. "When the fetus is inside the uterus it is alive and when the pregnancy is terminated it is dead.".....
https://www.mccl.org/post/2018/02/1...-industry-embraces-scientifically-absurd-euph

Why is it the pro-abortion side has to hide behind all this inane euphemisms like "pro-choice" when it is pro-abortion.

 

"can be" but not likely at all. Getting a tooth pulled "can be" life threatening. Driving to the store can be "life threatening". And I know of no state where if the mother's life is in danger an abortion is not allowed.

 

Did you just really post a pro-birth organization as a source for what medical care is. The medical community disagrees with you that it isn’t medical care and while I know there is a trend on the right to ignore doctors in favor of blogs that isn’t going to fly.

Very few people are pro-abortion, it is a horrible practice that I think everything should be done to prevent including increased education and a push for IUD’s and other preventatives. Where we draw the line is for the government to step between a person and their doctor in attempts to remove their bodily autonomy for something that isn’t formed.

That is why it is called pro-choice because it should be their right to have a choice over their own body.

Pro-life is the misnomer as none of you care one iota after it is pushed or cut out of the cervix. You are pro-birth or pro-forced birth.

 

What in your view is horrible about abortion? And what I posted stands as a reasoned argument based on the truth.

And you are pro-baby killing, see two can play your labeling game.

Do you support legal unrestricted abortion throughout the pregnancy?

Can you give me some straight answers or just more euphemisms?

 

Looks like your OP and Topic title might be coordinated fake news propaganda in service of the Democrat Party "Messaging". Messaging is the term they use when the rest of us would use lying.

Receipt-filled thread on the so-called pregnant 10-year-old girl story media

This crazed abortion activist remains the only named source and she's still doding Snopes. Makes one wonder...

Here is a listing of all the 'reputable' news outlets that are running this story and not a single reporter has asked about the criminal investigation to find out who raped this poor little girl, that is, if she actually exists. Please note that I presumed her gender even though I'm not biologist, because I'm just awesome and correctly labeling the sex of most folks is one of my superpowers.

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I didn't mention a lot, because I was talking about rights of the unborn.

I care about the well-being of women just as much as the next person, probably more. But I've yet to meet anyone who thinks women should have absolutely no rights.

I've met lots who say the unborn have none. So I'll trust my prioritization instinct regarding the biggest current threat, and keep talking about their well-being.

 

Again, I am not pro anything but choice for the bodily autonomy of the mother. You doubling down with another misnomer doesn’t really lend credibility to your argument though. Your labeling of pro-abortion and pro-baby killing is blatantly false as I am not a proponent of either I can just recognize that the alternative is much much worse and revoking bodily autonomy to force women to be an incubator to the state is not an area I am willing to compromise on.

Why is it horrible? It causes psychological damage to many of these women, it is a new life and it is sad to see it ended.

 

Should fathers be forced by the state to give their organs to their dying child? What if it is an organ they can easily live without?

 

That's probably because you do not understand the difference between some of the following.... a sperm, fetus, embryo and baby.... but not all of it. While I expect that the mental side of the well being of women, is none of your concern when you mention "well being". You're no doubt willing to sacrifice all of the dreams of a woman for the sake that a baby gets born. It's using a woman as an object.

 

Do you realize that your Topic title and OP are looking like more coordinated left wing propaganda of fake news? How can all these major outlets push this perfectly timed story, and never mention that absence of any indication a criminal investigation to find out who raped this child? The obvious answer is that they all know that it's lying fake news in the service of the Democrat Party messaging and that there is no such child. They also never mention that they have only one named source, an abortion fanatic, who continues to dodge Snopes.

Another possibility is that the rapist is a prominent Democrat. Everyone has noticed that Jeff Epstein's client list remains an unleaked secret even though Ghislaine Maxwell is doing hard time for trafficking minors to unnamed persons. If those unnamed persons were prominent Republicans, the massively leaked information would be on a 24/7 news loop of all the Lying Fake News stations.

So, I'd say the rape is the work of a known Democrat or this story of a 10 year old pregnant rape victim is yet another coordinate fake news propaganda piece by the Left.

Another Democrat Sent to Prison for Child Sex Crimes:

"Jerry Harris, former Biden campaign surrogate and star of the Netflix documentary Cheer, was sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for sex crimes involving minors. The disgraced cheerleader pleaded guilty in February to sexually assaulting a 15-year-old boy in a bathroom at a cheer competition and paying another underaged child to send him sexually explicit photos and videos on Snapchat."

"The sentence is a blow to the Democratic Party, which has a long history of associating with sexual deviants. Last month, for example, Democrat donor Ghislaine Maxwell received a 20-year sentence for abusing and trafficking underage girls at the behest of Jeffrey Epstein, the scofflaw pedophile who “committed suicide” in 2019. Maxwell was a longtime friend of former president Bill Clinton, who gifted her a signed copy of his post-White House memoir and made numerous trips aboard Epstein’s private jet, nicknamed the “Lolita Express.” In 2010, Maxwell attended Chelsea Clinton’s wedding to failed hedge-fund manager Marc Mezvinsky."

So who raped this 10 year old girl and how come no one in the lying fake news media is asking this question?​

 

I should attend a class on logic, but you are trying to say that a fake story isn't fake if it COULD happen.

Thats ridiculous.

 

Do you struggle with reading comprehension? I did not say that a story isn't fake if it could happen. You have nothing to show that the story is fake in the first place. Do you know the girl? It might be fake. Do you know whether she exists? Feelings of the story veracity does not count

 

The story in the OP is probably not true.

Biden faces doubt over story of 10-year-old rape victim he used to push abortion order

President Biden is facing increasing skepticism after he repeated the horrifying story of a 10-year-old rape victim to push his executive order on abortion — without seeking any evidence that the tale is true.

Biden on Friday raged against Ohio’s restrictive abortion law as he referenced the widely reported incident, in which a young girl was allegedly forced to travel across state lines to obtain an abortion after being raped.

“Imagine being that little girl,” he said. “I’m serious, just imagine being that little girl. Ten years old!”

But hours later, the Washington Post acknowledged what conservative critics had been saying for days: that the story, first reported July 1 by the Indianapolis Star, is highly dubious.

A single source, Indianapolis OB-GYN Dr. Caitlin Bernard, claims an Ohio “child abuse doctor” contacted her after determining that the young victim was six weeks and three days pregnant — three days too late to obtain an abortion under the restrictive Ohio abortion law triggered by the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision.


https://nypost.com/2022/07/09/biden-faces-doubt-over-story-of-10-year-old-rape-victim/

 

Even The Washington Post couldn't find any facts behind the story,

A one-source story about a 10-year-old and an abortion goes viral