As unimaginable as this is........it's getting worse. Part II

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    The majority of Americans don't support impeachment.

    And don't post any of your fake polls.
     
  2. KAMALAYKA

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    It doesn't matter whether or not he felt threatened. This is a pathetic straw that you guys are grasping at. Besides, it would be foolish for the Ukrainian president to get on Putin's bad side, so he really has no choice but to play dumb about it all.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trumpette's don't understand Zelensky will say anything to keep the military aid from being cut off...........as Vlad's favorite candidate has already threatened to do once.
     
  4. MolonLabe2009

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    It doesn't matter that the United States withheld aid until Ukraine met our demands. We don't just give money to countries without strings attached. We do this ALL the time. Get over it!!!!!!
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The admission of a quid pro quo you refer to, one Mulvaney made, is the one he has spent a week trying to walk back. It seems like it was floated as a trial balloon to see if they could get people to accept it. It didn't work.
     
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    No. You don't get it. You should read the Constitution for once, because then you'll know that Congress has power to appropriate tax dollars as it sees fit, and the POTUS has no authority to interfere in that. Congress allocated this money to the Ukraine. Trump had no authority to use that money as a bargaining chip with a foreign power--and for personal politican gain, no less!
     
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    lol at all the Leftists getting outraged from unverified, leaked information, delivered to them from a fully partisan MSM.

    The USSR would have been proud!
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    U.S. judge says he will order State Dept. to begin releasing Ukraine records in 30 days
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...60e69e-f5cd-11e9-a285-882a8e386a96_story.html

    A federal judge said Wednesday that he will order the State Department to begin releasing Ukraine-related documents in 30 days, potentially making public sensitive records and communications at the heart of an ongoing House impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

    The decision, by U.S. District Judge Christopher R. “Casey” Cooper of Washington, D.C., came in a public records lawsuit filed Oct. 1 by a government watchdog group, American Oversight.

    The group in May asked the State Department for records related to alleged efforts by Trump and his administration to pressure Ukraine to investigate a political opponent, former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter.
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    The more the truth comes out, the worse it is for the criminal known as Individual 1.
     
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    Every time the U.S. withholds aid until the receiving country abides by our demands is a QPQ. It happens in every administration. Get over it!
     
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    So, what you are saying is that Obama did something unconstitutional?

    Senator: Obama Administration Secretly Suspended Military Aid to Egypt
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/senator-obama-administration-secretly-suspended-military-aid-to-egypt
     
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    Just when I begin to think that maybe that's not true...Trump does something else to prove it is.
     
  12. Lesh

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    A quid pro quo in the national interest is normal

    A quid pro quo in Trump's PERSONAL interest is not not only NOT normal..it's illegal
     
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    Trump didn't do a QPQ for his "PERSONAL interest."

    Stop making crap up!
     
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    Oh, we will get the whole story. A great deal of evidence has already been told to Americans.

    Someone please tell me how Trump is being denied due process. He doesn't want his day in "court." He is stonewalling everything.

    The Republicans who made complete fools of themselves today are demanding open hearings.

    First, Republicans have as many rights as Democrats in those closed door hearings. Jordan and company do not want you to know that.

    Secondly, "Be careful what you wish for." When all this comes out, and it will, it will not be good for Trump.

    Republicans protesting the impeachment inquiry say nothing about the mounting evidence against Trump. Without basis, they question only the process. That is because the evidence is damning.

    And they are demanding open hearings?
     
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    Just remember, when this goes to the senate, the Republicans are in control and can subpoena anybody and everybody for months including Obama, Holder, Lynch, Hillary, Comey, Strzok, Ohr, Brennan, Clapper, Schiff, etc. etc. etc.

    LMFAO!
     
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    #SHTF
     
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    You mean the word from a couple yahoos from the House and WH. Debunked within hours.

    Too many incompetents involved in the conspiracy. As we’re seeing not exactly “the best people”.
     
  18. Lee Atwater

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    ‘Buying an AR-15’: MLB probes ump who reportedly threatened civil war over impeachment

    "As millions of fans prepared to watch the Washington Nationals obliterate the Houston Astros on Wednesday, a tweet posted by Major League Baseball umpire Rob Drake caught the attention of an ESPN reporter.

    “I will be buying an AR-15 tomorrow, because if you impeach MY PRESIDENT this way, YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER CIVAL WAR!!! #MAGA2020,” the ump tweeted late Tuesday, ESPN’s Jeff Passan reported. Drake deleted the tweet so quickly that a screen shot had not surfaced by early Thursday. It had accompanied another tweet that said: “You can’t do an impeachment inquiry from the basement of Capital Hill without even a vote! What is going on in this country?”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...rtedly-threatened-cival-war-over-impeachment/

    Where does the sickness of people like this umpire come from?
     
  19. Lee Atwater

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    Impeachment is not a legal mechanism. It is a political power, written into the Constitution by people who—having recently fought a revolution against the madness of King George III—wanted to guard against the accumulation of power by autocrats who might abuse their authority to enrich themselves or to warp foreign and domestic relations in order to extend their tenures. The founders feared the prospect that a president chosen using the arcane processes they had established for filling the post might choose to make himself “a king for four years” or an “elected despot.”
    https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-tweet-constitution/
     
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    Thanks for admitting that this whole debacle is about political power.

    Shame on the Democrats for trying to unseat a duly elected President purely based on their drive for political power.
     
  21. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I encourage you to enter a remedial reading class so that you can learn not to take what you read out of context. Oh........wait..............you did it on purpose.........never mind.
     
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    But it's not taken out of context. It's the truth. The Democrats want political power. Plain and simple.
     
  23. Lesh

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    Which would be extortion...or as the Constitution puts it...the Impeachable offense of BRIBERY
     
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    Strong arming a foreign government to manufacture political dirt on Trump's 2020 opponent is ABSOLUTELY for "personal interest"
     
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    Trump did no such thing.

    Please provide evidence of Trump "Strong arming a foreign government to manufacture political dirt".

    *crickets*
     

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