Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. xwsmithx

    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

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    Don't tell me, tell Dagosa. He's the one who claimed evolution proves God doesn't exist.
     
  2. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Evolution only shows that the creation story in the Christian Bible is wrong. Though that does indicate inaccuracy concerning their version of "God" is does not completely disprove it. It is not the responsibility nor the goal of an Atheist to do so, it is up to the theist to show it does exist and provide proof if so inclined. As of now, and for a couple thousand years they have not been successful and not for lack of request. As Christians here seem to confuse Evolution with Abiogenesis my reply is directed at them.
     
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  3. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    There are times when even Evangelicals don’t take the Bible seriously, except to exert control over others. The Bible has long been a control mechanism of the masses by the few, much in the same way that fascism has. What else could be true given the amount of crime, suffering and lack of empathy all practiced in the name of a God by the so called Sheppards of the flock.
     
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  4. FoxHastings

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    Sorry, this is like listening to someone who spent the week at Woodstock...

    But believers seem to NEED to sound like that...

    The real world must frighten them so....
     
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    Oh , here's the EXCUSE on that subject from xwsmithx .

    This was how he squirmed and slithered away from my similar questions,


    """Why would god favor one person's needs over another?

    If an abused child locked in a cage prays to be let out why wouldn't god let them out??? """


    His meaningless, vacuous reply..
    """""Here you're asking me to know the mind of God, which I never tried to do as a believer and obviously never will try as an atheist. One of the more interesting questions I faced as a believer was, "Why are there martyrs?" Here you're talking about people who not only believed in God, but practiced Christianity faithfully, i.e., they were saints. These ought to be the people God would come through for in a pinch if he ever came through for anyone, but in the case of martyrs, he didn't. Why not?""""
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause:

    Think you'll get a direct answer ? :)
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    There is about as much chance of that happening as a theist proving that their god exists.

    ;)
     
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  9. perdidochas

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    Not a problem. that's a theological issue, not a scientific one.
     
  10. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    So then you admit your earlier statement was wrong (emphasis added).....
     
  11. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Only if you believe in a literal rather than allegorical reading of Genesis.
     
  12. dagosa

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    You’re grabbing at straws and your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired. Science has no intent of proving god or not. They have more important work to do. It’s a by product of evolution and other research that the existence of a deity of the type you like to quote from a Bible, is pretty doubtful . . . Just about everything you espouse to when trying to defend a “ creator” is filled with contradiction, just like Catholicism and all religions in general.
     
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    Theological issue ? You mean, it’s time for make Believe.
     
  14. perdidochas

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    My point is that your contention that evolution disproves God is wrong. Plain and simple. You even admit it.
     
  15. perdidochas

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    It's not your worry. That's the thing I don't understand. Why do atheists always insist on discussing religious issues? If I were an atheist, it would be an irrelevant subject to me. But then again, I'm a rational person.
     
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    So you just make it mean what you want it to mean?
     
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    No, you read it for what it means, not literally what it says. It's a nice story, but the points are not the actual story, but rather how it shows basic human nature, and how God and man relate. IMHO, only people who don't truly understand go for a literal view of the Bible--i.e. evangelicals and atheists. We all know that fiction can teach truth at least as well as non-fiction.
     
  18. Chester_Murphy

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    Why do you attack believers?
     
  19. dagosa

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    I’m not an atheist. I believe religion serves a purpose of community. If believers would just stop making s.h.it up and pretending theology is a science, we’d all be fine. It’s literature designed to take our minds off the most frightening part of life, which is death and we have no evidence on way or another.
     
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    How god and man relate ? Ha ha. You relate when you have a conversation . This far, it’s pretty one way.
     
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    Why do religious people always insist on discussing atheism..it should be irrelevant to you...but then again, I’m a rational person
     
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    I think you've been most honest - never seen that before - saying that the bible is fiction - that's not how it's taught - not how it was taught to me - but as I suspected.
     
  23. xwsmithx

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    Not an excuse, not a squirm, and definitely not a slither. You're asking me why evil exists if God exists and my answer is, "I don't know." Take it up with God, not me.
     
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    Exactly, especially when religious Christians are already 95% atheist themselves.
     
  25. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    Oh , here's the EXCUSE on that subject from xwsmithx .

    This was how he squirmed and slithered away from my similar questions,

    """Why would god favor one person's needs over another?

    If an abused child locked in a cage prays to be let out why wouldn't god let them out??? """

    His meaningless, vacuous reply..
    """""Here you're asking me to know the mind of God, which I never tried to do as a believer and obviously never will try as an atheist. One of the more interesting questions I faced as a believer was, "Why are there martyrs?" Here you're talking about people who not only believed in God, but practiced Christianity faithfully, i.e., they were saints. These ought to be the people God would come through for in a pinch if he ever came through for anyone, but in the case of martyrs, he didn't. Why not?""""




    Why does one worship such a nasty angry mean cruel unjust deity ???
     
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