Assad is back for good in Syria - and with Trump’s blessing

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  1. Margot2

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    Did Trump actually give his blessing to Assad the butcher?
     
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    Thanks for proving my point in my previous post.
     
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    Yes.. he helps fund HAMAS, Hezbollah and the al Houthis. Have you read about the Syrian elections?
     
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    Margot: No, I shied away from reading about Syria pretty quickly, guessing that it would be another Libya, and that there were no good guys ... or rather, no good guys with plenty of guns and ammunition.
    I follow the Syria debate indirectly, via a Marxist mailing list -- there are pretty serious Marxists on both sides of the Assad/anti-Assad debate, and I sporadically read their arguments. (Why do I trust Marxists in this case ... because the 'pro-Americans' on debate forums are usually -- sorry to say this -- just mindless 'patriots' who know nothing about the Middle East except that they love Israel -- their opinions are worthless. But when you have people who are communists or revolutionary socialists of one flavor or another, invariably anti-Zionists, who support the resistance to Assad, then I think their opinions, reporting from the scene, etc. is probably worth something. It's sort of like what lawyers call "testimony against interest". When the accused says he was indeed at the murder scene on the night of the murder, we are inclined to believe him.

    Moonglow: I'll grant you that he supports anti-Israeli military actions, some of which I would classify as outright terrorism. (Just as Zionists committed outright terrorism in their struggle to ethnically cleanse Israel.) He also almost certainly carried out terrorism in Lebanon.

    What I meant was, did he ever support the kind of terrorism the people our Arab allies support in Syria, like the Al Nusra Front, carry out? The kind of terroristswho are likely to kill me as I visit London or Paris.
     
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    The Election maze is the Syrian Constitution, which requires that a proposed candidate for the Syrian Presidency must secure the support of 15% of the members of Parliament: Syrian Constitution, article 85(3).

    The Syrian Parliament is stacked by the President himself through a maze of constitutional and legislative barriers, appointments and prohibitions.

    The Syrian Constitution reserves more than 50% of Parliamentary seats for persons who are deemed independent of party affiliation and are “of labor and farmers“: Constitution, article 60(2) and the Elections Law, article 19.

    Who determines whether a person is of “labor“ or “farmer“? Assad appointees. It is done through committees appointed by a Commission. The Commission’s members are appointed for the task by the President or the Provincial Governor, an appointee of the President: Elections Law, article 13. If a Committee rules that a potential candidate is not of “labor“ or “farmer“ then the only avenue to appeal leads to another committee appointed by Assad (and which can be dismissed by Assad).

    Of course, there is no independent judiciary in Syria; Assad is the head of the Supreme Judicial Committee, which oversees functioning of the judiciary: Constitution, articles 132, 133. Even the judges of the Supreme Constitutional Court, Syria’s highest court, do not have tenure: Constitution, article 143.

    The result is that Assad will always have, and has always had, a majority of the seats in Parliament.

    Article 31..In Syria, the purpose of this law is to crush criticism. In Syria it is a criminal offense to make statements that “weaken national sentiment”: Syrian Penal Code, section 307. This is one of the “catch-all crimes” that stifle any criticism of Assad.

    The Syrian Constitution: Assad’s Magic Wand - Carnegie Middle ...


    Even if the elections were democratic and ... article 84 of the Syrian Constitution says that a candidate for the presidency cannot have been convicted of a ...

    http://carnegie-mec.org/diwan/55541?lang=en
     
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    Syria has had many coups since 1945 and has always had sectarian strife.

    Assad, his father before him and the extended family will NEVER give up power in Syria.. and they will always be brutal.

    I am not a fan of Israel's politics, but this isn't about Israel or Saudi Arabia or the US. This is about crushing oppression.. Assad isn't even bright enough to make concessions and reforms for his people.

    Putin gave Assad a new Constitution which would limit his power and foster reforms.. Assad rejected it completely.

    I do understand testimony against interest perfectly.

    Trump is useless in this Syrian mess. He hasn't a clue and can't be bothered.. He's dazzled by Putin.
     
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    Ewwww.
     

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