Assange: Donald Trump Will Not Be Allowed To Win US Elections

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Assange and Snowden have shaken the arrogant 'born-to-rule' political and establishment elitists out of their complacent stupor and they're running around like headless chickens in the knowledge that their closeted privileged world is about to come to an end.
     
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    Assange is correct...Donald Trump will not be allowed to win.

    The American people are too intelligent to allow that to happen. It has nothing to do with nefarious plots...it has to do with the was we "allow" people to win...BY ELECTION.

    Hillary Clinton will win this election. America, and the world, will be the better for it.
     
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    Assange being interviewed by Pilger - pretty much the reason they invented drone strikes. Maybe they can invite Chomsky too.
     
  4. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What? [​IMG]
     
  5. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your last four presidents haven't had what it takes to be a president! [​IMG]
     
  6. AlphaOmega

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    Look everyone, its another Russia did it guy. This despite the only evidence is from hillary clintons lie hole. Sorry but hillarya war with russia isnt going to happen. Shes a walking disaster with every single thing shes ever been in contact with. We find out today she sent chelsea classified information. Good, now we can throw her piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) spawn in jail too.
     
  7. Junkieturtle

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    If we as a country actually had our (*)(*)(*)(*) together as citizens and voters, Donald Trump wouldn't even be in the running for president. The system may be broken, but right now we're putting (*)(*)(*)(*) in and seem to continuously wonder why we then get (*)(*)(*)(*) out.
     
  8. TomFitz

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    You may be seeing made up trash from people like Alex Jones and his immitators, but this claim is false.

    But it does serve the victim mentality of the far right wing. It can't be the far right's fault that elections keep proving that they are not the "silent majority" they proclaim themselves to be.

    So, their favorite "news" sources need to assure them of their inevitable righteousness by claiming that the system is rigged against them.

    Of course, this is Trump's message. He was never one for taking responsibility either.
     
  9. TomFitz

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    No one actually believes Assange.

    His agenda is clear, and he is also clearly a useful idiot for the Russians.

    After all, if he actually stood for what he claims to stand for, he, or his agents, would have hacked the servers of the Trump campaign (which is probably relatively easy to do, given the sloppiness and ineptitude of the campaign and the RNC.

    Assange and his handlers are clearly not disinterested parties, and are clearly pushing an agenda the focuses on trying to influence a democratic election in a foreign country

    That Assange and his handlers have a very poor understanding of American political culture is evident in the statement in the OP (exceptionally poor syntax and all)

     
  10. Pred

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    Considering HRC or the DNC hasn't denied anything in the emails, one would think it's all real. But keep up the tin foil hat waving.


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  11. Silver Surfer

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    That's a good one. Andrew, Tom, Natty, Ronnie....the tin foil hat wavers. Cheers.
     
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    Trumps email has classified information? As well as the RNC??? Omg Tom quick notify the media this is earth shattering! Oh wait they dont nevermind.. Keep moving those goalposts and deflecting.
     
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    Julian Assange's Wikileaks dumps have little or nothing to do with classified information. His principal thrust has been to try to embarrass Democratic activists, party officials and campaign staffers with embarrassing revalations about what they said in e mails.

    My point stands. If Assange was actually an equal opportunity expose artist, and not merely a useful idiot for Russian operatives, we'd be reading Paul Manafort and Roger Stone's e-mails, in addition to Podesta's.
     
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    http://viralliberty.com/watch-anonymous-set-drop-mother-load-hillary-tomorrow-heres-know/


    Well. Looks like some damning stuff is set to come out today. Keep your eyes open.
     
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    Because there is corruption to find on the Clinton side you assume there is on the Trump side? It just hasn't been found? Trump colluded with the RNC to cripple his rivals? Trump sold favors from the State dept where he never held a position for donations and personal enrichment through his foundation?


    How about you address the (*)(*)(*)(*) storm of corruption your candidate is and has always been embroiled in rather than fantasies of her oppositions.
     
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    Indeed
    [video=youtube;MMKFIHRpe7I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKFIHRpe7I[/video]
     
  17. Silver Surfer

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    You still don't get it, do you? There is a difference between an orange and an apple. Hillary Clinton was a secretary of state while she committed those proven crimes and treasonous acts against the USA and Americans. She actively worked against the best interest of Americans and dutifully pursued Saudi/Qatari agenda. As we all know now, she's taken substantial amount of money from them which she didn't declare. Being an ostrich doesn't help your cause.
     
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    So he's on a scripted show a long time ago before even having aspirations to be POTUS. How horrible. Compared to a life long politician lying her entire career about what she supposedly stands for. Gay people don't deserve to get married in 08 and now they do. My, how her opinions change. Talking out of one side of her mouth to the 1% while being paid 300k for an hour and then lying right to the faces of millions during debates, since its completely different than what she said previously to the 1%ers. Being a champion for women....UNLESS they were abused by your husband. Then you eviscerate them. Being a strong woman, UNLESS your husband cheated on you, so you just have to stick by your lying cheating man=) How strong and independent of you. HA!!! Support that military Hillary, UNLESS they allow you to land under sniper fire....so throw them under the fake, lying bus. Talk about transparency and trust, but hide your emails on an illegal, unsecured server and then delete 1000s of emails after receiving a subpoena. Fight for the working stiff, YET get paid more in one hour as most people voting for you get paid in 5 yrs. Yeah, you're a saint. Tell black people to their faces that they're super predators. Tell black people how you understand how much they like hot sauce. Yeah, that's not a racist. Do you love watermelon too?

    The woman's ENTIRE life is one lie after another. LIE, after LIE after LIE. In the words of George Costanza...her whole life is a SHAM!!! Nothing out of her mouth is real. Its all scripted, manufactured B.S., written by handlers and lawyers. Its all a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing joke.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    A better example of a fact-free post I never hope to see.

    Do you have anything to back up anything you say here?
     
  20. AtsamattaU

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    I'll agree with this. I'm hoping that a sound Trump defeat will also have a positive effect on the anti-establishment movement. It isn't enough to simply whine about the other party and call your political opponents names. We need a leader who is committed to good ideas and integrity. Until then, I'll take the establishment devil I know, thank you.
     
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    There is no Establishment, there wasn't one in the 1960's when the term was invented and there isn't any now. It's simply a diversion from the real problems we always face, thought up by the people who, in fact, cause the problems.
     
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    I prefer the president the people voted for
     
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    So the felon is now testing the waters as a conspiracy theorist? This is not much different from Trump, who has decided to try lynching the media for the real source of his lackluster-running outreach campaign. When I first read the threads title, I thought for a second Assange was redeeming himself, and making a effort not to look partisan in his operations. But, this tweet and statement just further confirms that he is in the Deplorable Basket.

    It will be close, no doubt about that, but its not like the election is a yo-yo held right out of Trump's grasp. According to RCP, his spike peaked at 45.0%, and has not shown signs of rising--nor has Clinton's. We do not need Trump-dispatched poll watchers, which would by the way be illegal on the RNC's behalf, standing like doormen at polling locations. It's none of their business.
     
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    Not me. I want to burn it down.
     
  25. Silver Surfer

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    The problem is that you obviously don't understand English. Your reading comprehension skills are below required level in order to understand what he is saying. There is no conspiracy. Wikileaks disclosed REAL DOCUMENTS, facts, hard evidence which proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that DNC, Hillary and her inner circle all broke numerous U.S laws. Some of them committed outright treason. It's not his fault that you lack moral fiber and support people who have complete disregard for U.S laws and U.S constitution.

    Instead of continually trying to kill man's character you should be grateful to him for exposing the dirt your politicians have been hiding for ages.


    Julian Assange's Most Incendiary Interview: "Hillary Clinton Is The Central Cog Of The Establishment"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...iew-hillary-clinton-central-cog-establishment

    ‘US attempting to squeeze WikiLeaks through my refugee status’

    JP: I’d like to talk about Ecuador, the small country that has given you refuge and [political asylum] in this embassy in London. Now Ecuador has cut off the internet from here where we're doing this interview, in the Embassy, for the clearly obvious reason that they are concerned about appearing to intervene in the U.S. election campaign. Can you talk about why they would take that action and your own views on Ecuador’s support for you?

    JA: Let’s let go back four years. I made an asylum application to Ecuador in this embassy, because of the U.S. extradition case, and the result was that after a month, I was successful in my asylum application. The embassy since then has been surrounded by police: quite an expensive police operation which the British government admits to spending more than £12.6 million. They admitted that over a year ago. Now there’s undercover police and there are robot surveillance cameras of various kinds -- so that there has been quite a serious conflict right here in the heart of London between Ecuador, a country of sixteen million people, and the United Kingdom, and the Americans who have been helping on the side. So that was a brave and principled thing for Ecuador to do. Now we have the U.S. election [campaign], the Ecuadorian election is in February next year, and you have the White House feeling the political heat as a result of the true information that we have been publishing.

    WikiLeaks does not publish from the jurisdiction of Ecuador, from this embassy or in the territory of Ecuador; we publish from France, we publish from, from Germany, we publish from The Netherlands and from a number of other countries, so that the attempted squeeze on WikiLeaks is through my refugee status; and this is, this is really intolerable. [It means] that [they] are trying to get at a publishing organisation; [they] try and prevent it from publishing true information that is of intense interest to the American people and others about an election.

    JP: Tell us what would happen if you walked out of this embassy.

    JA: I would be immediately arrested by the British police and I would then be extradited either immediately to the United States or to Sweden. In Sweden I am not charged, I have already been previously cleared [by the Senior Stockholm Prosecutor Eva Finne]. We were not certain exactly what would happen there, but then we know that the Swedish government has refused to say that they will not extradite me to the United States we know they have extradited 100 per cent of people whom the U.S. has requested since at least 2000. So over the last fifteen years, every single person the U.S. has tried to extradite from Sweden has been extradited, and they refuse to provide a guarantee [that won’t happen].

    JP: People often ask me how you cope with the isolation in here.

    JA: Look, one of the best attributes of human beings is that they’re adaptable; one of the worst attributes of human beings is they are adaptable. They adapt and start to tolerate abuses, they adapt to being involved themselves in abuses, they adapt to adversity and they continue on. So in my situation, frankly, I’m a bit institutionalised -- this [the embassy] is the world .. it’s visually the world [for me].

    JP: It’s the world without sunlight, for one thing, isn’t it?

    JA: It’s the world without sunlight, but I haven’t seen sunlight in so long, I don’t remember it.

    JP: Yes.

    JA: So , yes, you adapt. The one real irritant is that my young children -- they also adapt. They adapt to being without their father. That’s a hard, hard adaption which they didn’t ask for.

    JP: Do you worry about them?

    JA: Yes, I worry about them; I worry about their mother.

    * * *

    ‘I am innocent and in arbitrary detention’

    JP: Some people would say, ‘Well, why don’t you end it and simply walk out the door and allow yourself to be extradited to Sweden?’

    JA: The U.N. [the United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention] has looked into this whole situation. They spent eighteen months in formal, adversarial litigation. [So it’s] me and the U.N. verses Sweden and the U.K. Who’s right? The U.N. made a conclusion that I am being arbitrarily detained illegally, deprived of my freedom and that what has occurred has not occurred within the laws that the United Kingdom and Sweden, and that [those countries] must obey. It is an illegal abuse. It is the United Nations formally asking, ‘What’s going on here? What is your legal explanation for this? [Assange] says that you should recognise his asylum.’ [And here is]

    Sweden formally writing back to the United Nations to say, ‘No, we're not going to [recognise the UN ruling], so leaving open their ability to extradite.

    I just find it absolutely amazing that the narrative about this situation is not put out publically in the press, because it doesn’t suit the Western establishment narrative -- that yes, the West has political prisoners, it’s a reality, it’s not just me, there’s a bunch of other people as well. The West has political prisoners. Of course, no state accepts [that it should call] the people it is imprisoning or detaining for political reasons, political prisoners. They don’t call them political prisoners in China, they don’t call them political prisoners in Azerbaijan and they don’t call them political prisoners in the United States, U.K. or Sweden; it is absolutely intolerable to have that kind of self-perception.

    JA: Here we have a case, the Swedish case, where I have never been charged with a crime, where I have already been cleared [by the Stockholm prosecutor] and found to be innocent, where the woman herself said that the police made it up, where the United Nations formally said the whole thing is illegal, where the State of Ecuador also investigated and found that I should be given asylum. Those are the facts, but what is the rhetoric?

    JP: Yes, it’s different.

    JA: The rhetoric is pretending, constantly pretending that I have been charged with a crime, and never mentioning that I have been already previously cleared, never mentioning that the woman herself says that the police made it up.

    [The rhetoric] is trying to avoid [the truth that ] the U.N. formally found that the whole thing is illegal, never even mentioning that Ecuador made a formal assessment through its formal processes and found that yes, I am subject to persecution by the United States.
     

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