Wow, being Aussie overseas and in trouble is the worst thing that can happen to you, proven over and over again, Bali 9 not to mention. So, Assange lost. Doesn't come to a surprise, does it? In 2011 a soldier, killing a couple of Talibans was named Australian of the year, while on the same day Julian Assange was named the most unaustralian Aussie of the year. We have sold our soul a long time ago, to me the disaster started under Howard, and Rudd/Gillard didn't or couldn't or wouldn't want to turn those cancercells away from us. We have become Americans, not only helping them in unjustified wars, but in not helping Julian Assange, an Australian citizen in trouble is just proof of that. Sometimes I am not proud, being an Australian..... is it just me ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Any thoughts?
My thoughts are you cross the aristocracy and your (*)(*)(*)(*)ed? no one can help you. He stepped on some pretty big toes and i think he's going to do time for it. Lately it looks like as soon as someone (when its a man) treads on their pinky BANG some women across a continent or country is screaming rape and sexual molestation from just the other week to 10 years ago. They have been doing it to members in their club and to outsiders as well. I'm afraid Julian Assange is headed for the slammer.
I'm with you on the sometimes not proud to be Australian. What's the difference between Syrian Government killings at the Houla Massacre then the false invasion of Iraq or the innocent people killed by foreign troops. The difference is what our media calls it one is a massacre the other is a accident.
I don't see your point regarding Assange. What would you expect the Australian authorities to do regarding his case? Do you know what, if anything did they do? You seem to be hanging a much more general issue from it but I don't see any relevant connection.
They called him reckless and dangerous. What more needs to be said When asked if he had been receiving adequate assistance from the federal government over his potential extradition from Britain to Sweden, Assange replied: "Of course not". "Almost no Australian who is involved in trouble overseas receives the assistance they should," he said. "Australia is famous for its lack of assistance to its people who enter into difficulty overseas."
Well, they called Wikileaks' actions of releasing all the US diplomatic cables "reckless, irresponsible and potentially dangerous", an opinion they're entitled to. I think what more needs to be said would still be what you (and he) expect the Australian government to do that they're not doing already?
remember he is not being extradited for being reckless and dangerous. He is being extradited on rape allegations, whether or not they are fake is yet to be determined. I think they are trumped up, however I am yet to see a person commit sexual assualt and then admit to it. What was the government to do ? Legal assistance.....perhaps. This guy didn't need legal assistance. Assange more than anyone knew what troubled waters he was about to sail into, hats off to him for upholding the one thing most of us in here preach.........transparency.
How much tax payer funded money did these scummy politicians use to legally defend that prostitute poker Thompson, but how much did they use to legally defend Assange? Oh, that’s right, these scum-bag pollies “need” poker Thomo’s vote to stay in power, but they don’t need anything from Assange. Get into any legal problems or trouble in a foreign people and don’t expect these spineless gutless pollies to come to your aid - you’re on your own. First stop Sweden where he will be found guilty; next stop the USA. It was all set up from day one.
Gillard should be doing everything she can to help him. I hope he wins this and that he is allowed to come home.
He will end up another Schapelle Corby. Its a done deal between Sweden & the US. Al they had to do was get him to Sweden, and he will be instantly deported to the US for trial. The troll queen doing everything she can to help him - her public speech about him was an approval for the USA to have him. She really does have the ethics and morals of a maggot!!
Has the US issued an indictment against Assange? An arrest warrant? A writ of extradition? No, we haven't. In fact the Attorney General has stated that we do not have grounds to prosecute Assange. So please Australia, stop your collective whining about the US going after poor Assange.
It's interesting that Assange has so much support regarding Wikileaks. Have their been any polls about whether 'the people' support Wikileaks and it's founder's actions? Bourne, the reason the US hasn't done anything yet is because they don't have to. Apparently the USA has an extradition arrangement with Sweden that allows them to throw an extradition request at Sweden very late in legal proceedings (i believe even without a charge, but not sure). I saw it on TV last night, a guy who wrote a book about it was telling it. I'm afraid i don't have his name or a web citation. This is why Assange is worried, it's much easier to be extradited from Sweden than even Britain. But i haven't really been following this much. Wikileaks has much more interesting content to read than does the media on Assange.
And Government officials "always" tell the truth - right? LOL LOL LOL No wonder they call the public mushrooms - keep them in dark and feed them bull-shyte.
Fine. Entertain yourselves with delusional paranoia. You have absolutely no proof that the US wants anything to do with Assange. And if Australia can't or won't help him that's his problem.
can only speak for myself, but when I see something that quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, and looks like a duck - my mind tells me its a duck; not a cow. Yes, it is pathetic that our politicians are so gutless that they refuse to help or offer assistance to an Australian citizen having legal problems in a foreign country, but will offer help and assist one of their own scum-bags who has been illegally misappropriating funds by poking prostitutes for years - funny that.
[ If it quacks, walks and looks as you say then let's see your proof that the US has taken any action to indict, arrest or extradite Assange.
That is my point, cull. It doesn't matter, which party is in power, it wouldn't be any different under Abbotts. Are we inmature as a nation? As soon the US is involved, we act (our politician at least) like young school children, they do what the teacher tell them to do. What's wrong with us????
Jason you may be able to shed more light on this situation. I am under the understanding that the US will not seek extradition as they do not have anything to charge Assange on that wouldn't severely compromise your constitution. If they were to indite him on charges of reckless endangerment regarding the leaking of articles detrimental to the said safety of individuals, it would set a dangerous precedent for your own media and press. I also understand that it is near impossible to pin point who exactly leaked the information, making it hard to find Assange guilty of anything more than assistance. A battle too hard to sell at the moment given the national climate regarding the disfunctional politics over there in my opinion. Lets face it America has stood tall among us all in regards to freedom and the fight against oppression. COUGH, COUGH, SPLUTTER, SPLUTTER ! Sorry for my sarcasm regarding the hypocracy of it all.
You misunderstand Jason. I never said the US publicly wanted to do anything to Assange. The US Government hate Assange for what he did, and surely you’re not that naïve to think they are going to let get away with this? There will be two outcomes: 1) extradited from Sweden to the US 2) the US will make sure Assnage never leaves Sweden a free man.
Very immature, very backward, and sad to say very gutless. Just look back at how the troll queen greeted Obama on his visit here. It was embarrassing and humiliating to see the leader of my country acting like some pubescent teenage girl kissing the captain of the football team. Its time Australia got some autonomy and some self dignity and started to say No more than yes all the time.
The basic principles in law that are being shreaded ,he is yet to be charged ,the Police are the Instrument for his etradition ,wITHOUT any overveiw from people called Judges ,unlike backward Sweden,we used to have a separation between the police and the Judges ,that there was overveiw by the law learned [Judges]on the activities of the Police.But no more Sweden is an example of a police state . the only crime that he is being called to answer BTW,is the non use of a condom ,big whoop,and much ado about nothing ,and as the Swedish state initally found nothing to answer ,it was only by Direct political intervention that this matter is going at all ,which political party well the Swedish Social Democrates \Liberals.the same type as the ALP! http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/may2012/assa-m31.shtml Do we live in a world of law and democratic Rights or is it George Bush's New World order" of unlawful disorder?
BTW,we can always tear up the An'US Treaty formerly called ANZUS,why not are we just cannon fodder for US Imperialist adventures like Iraq and Afghanistan ? Where democracy is "Fought for' yet everyday denied to the citizens of the US as well as australia ,Free Pte Manning.
Please try to keep up with this issue ,A grand jury endictment has already been prepared by the US State department and department of Justice {orwellian that name]of the USA. if or when Assange ever goes to the USA he will be immediately jailed already ,actually 10 days after the Wikileaks this was the case.So not using a condom ,can get you life in prison ,be safe kids ! BTW,he raped no one even the swedish admit that!
I already know Assange is not walking away from this a free man. Trying to convince the poster Jason Bourne that his Government are not the "truth fairies" was my aim.