Atheist Churches, For Real?

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religious and moral principles are the same in practice.

A persons religion is composed of their beliefs and morals, you said you have no morals because you said you have no religion. very simple.

 

I'll have to look that up. Where did you first hear about these black robed regiments? Maybe you can point me in a direction?

What is a bit frightening is that when this happens, not only will kids suffer, but there will be religious ideologies that reject the United States wholly and it will quicken the destruction of basic liberties. No matter who those guys in black robes were, this country likely benefitted from something they did. Understand, I know nothing about them. This is the first time I've ever heard of them.

 

the 'black robed regiments' were just the small-time preachers at rural, independent churches that preached rebellion from england in their sermons and even marched to war against the brittish with their congregations. General (was it Cornwallis? im blanking atm) credited 'the black robed regiments' as turning the tide of the revolution more than any other singular dynamic.

 

This is what 501c3 is designed to keep at bay.

http://www.zianet.com/maxey/reflx547.htm

(exerpt)
"These men, and there were a great many of them, were not just patriots, they were pastors. They were the leaders of their congregations, the moral motivators of the people, the spiritual shepherds of the flock of God in this new land. They were also a vital part of, indeed the voice and soul of, the movement to secure liberty from British tyranny. Thus, many of the government leaders were also leaders in the churches. The same was true of those who later took up arms to defend the colonies. Pastors would often go from pulpit to battlefield, leading the men of the congregation into war with the British troops. Their sermons were filled with a call to liberty. As the American Revolution approached, it was the pastors who called their members to take up arms, who would lead them in military drills following the Sunday services, and who would lead them into battle. These church members, who could be "ready in a minute" to confront the enemy, and who were recruited and trained largely by their pastors, were known as the "Minutemen." Historians are quick to point out that had it not been for the influence of the early American pastors, both in their sermons from the pulpit promoting liberty, as well as their leadership on the field of battle, the history of our nation might very well have been written differently. One historian, Tom Barrett, observed, "I do not consider it a stretch at all to say that were it not for the pastors and churches of colonial America, our land would be a British colony today" [The Forgotten Holiday]."

 

Atheism is a faith, a belief system. Believing and holding faith that there is no Creator is a belief system. A Christian church is a Christian family. I'm sure the same concept applies to a group of atheists who gather because they share values, beliefs etc.

 

I can't find a thing corroborating that. This is what I found and it is also mentioned in several other places. I don't see how those small community preachers would have enough money or be allowed to purchase military equipment, nor pay for the salaries of the minutemen. The colonies were established by the Dutch and English for the most part. The French were more interested in trading, rather than taking and settling the lands which they traveled, west of the Alleghenies.

These angry religious were happy to be free to preach as they desired with little trouble here in the colonies. At home, England did not approve of them, since they did not follow the government approved religion since around the time of King Henry VIII, when he broke from the Roman Catholic church in order to divorce and remarry another woman who could bear him a son and heir. They didn't know it was the man who determined gender.

 

They didnt buy equipment for anyone (but perhaps themselves) or provide any salaries. They were propagandists for the rebellion, utilizing the power of the pulpit to garner support for Independence from The Crown, and in some cases, battlefeild soldiers/commanders in the revolution. They were not an actual 'regiment' or any other official military force. They were instrumental in bringing the colonists to sympathize with the rebellion and either join the Continental Army or fight alongside it as militia/minutemen. 'Black Robe(s) Regiment(s) (or Brigades) was just the derogatory term that the Brittish coined to refer to them.

 

These men were chosen from the regular militia which was trained by the British garrisons and then given regular and frequent additional training. The pay and arms were provided by the British to keep the colonies safe and to ensure availability, "on a minutes notice". They were the best of the militia and the youngest, being from 20 to 30 years of age, for the most part.

They didn't play a significant part in the Revolution, other than at the start. I think the link I provided, pretty much says the same. I don't expect anyone to believe me, but I am not able to believe your source. I'd rather not continue this line of rebuttal. It doesn't help further the discussion of the topic. Thanks for discussing it with me.

 

very true, they just cant handle accepting the fact that is a religion because they have been ranting about religion as the great evil instead of simply denying the existence of deities.

 

My my ,how you do like trying to tell people what they think with your coffee table philosophy books!

As can be seen by his unquoted and therefor plagiarised work he leaves the most important statement out of his posts. See here for the genuine text.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/nihilism/

 

No. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god. It is specifically NOT a belief system.

 

No matter how often the lie is repeated it will never make it true, now yet again, all that atheists have in common is a lack of belief in gods. Show evidence for gods and we may consider them.

 

As can be seen this OP takes a lack of belief in gods , adds that life is meaningless, and that atheists reject all moral principles and then uses this disinformation to come to the erroneous conclusion that others are Nihilists. So funny, we must be labeled!

All of this to avoid the burden of proof.

 

No, that video does not present a single atheist mega-church lead by an atheist millionaire pastor. This is simply a lie. How do I know? Because I watched the damn 40 minute video from beginning to end.

 

Everyone has a belief system. That is where our values, world view and principles come from. In order to not believe in a creator...you have to believe no creator exists. Thus your lack of belief in a creator. One has to have faith in that belief in order to say there is no creator to worship. Commensense.

 

No. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a deity. It isn’t s belief system. It’s NOT believing.

 

That is not logical thinking. It's also, by the way, a rather evangelical religion. They sure start a lot of threads in the religion section.

 

A funny concept. The "I'm not a ________________ religion." I suppose a person could start a "Not a Buddhist Church" or any other "I'm not" this or that religion.

 

you gotta be ******* me, you are hung up on 'single', got anything weaker? Before you post false paraphrased spin how about posting the exact quote next time.

 

tried to tell him that, good luck, doubt you can scream loud enough.

 

I am getting hung up on your main *** point. Where are the atheist megachurches with pastors earning millions? Show me the video and the minute and second in the video that proves this. If you can't then just stop posting nonsense.

 

of course it is. It's no different than saying I lack a belief in psychic snow flakes.

no, atheism is by definition not a religion.

 

It most certainly does what 'that video' are you watching?

 

Neither is Christianity, put into practice it is, Likewise atheism put into practice is, looks like both atheists and theists are being attacked by the nihilist evangelists out to destroy our language by switching up the meaning.