Atheist Richard Dawkins warns against celebrating the alleged demise of Christianity in Europe

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    But one god has a son, and one doesn't.
    And one god teaches "original sin", and one doesn't.
    And one god teaches that Mohammad was his final prophet, and one doesn't.
    And one god has a son who died on a cross, and one doesn't.

    But they are similar in many ways - both are too stupid to realize that slavery is wrong, that killing gays is wrong, that torture is wrong, that treating women like dirt is wrong, etc.
     
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    Unfortunately, Santa is up chits creek for next Xmas.

    Toys R Us files for liquidation, likely spelling its end in the U.S.
     
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    it would be like me saying FreedomSeeker said this and someone else saying FreedomSeeker said that

    your still the same FreedomSeeker, regardless if what each said was 100% true or not

    heck the bible itself give 3 different last words of jesus, they could not even agree in what he last words were before he gave his last breath
     
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    Your reading of Nietzsche is ****. ****ing ****. He was an individualist who advocated for forming your own morals, not mindlessly aping those of authority.
     
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    Atheism/ agnosticism is on the rise throughout Europe, but the problem is that it does not do a great job filling some of the vacuums that theism leaves behind. It does not do as good a job in providing a sense of communal experience, structure and unity as organized religion does. Historically a religion's demise corresponds with another rising to fill the social, political needs. I think in the short run, it is likely that Islam is likely to gain traction for those Europeans who crave that stuff until they grow disenchanted or die off. But over the long haul, theism is going to be the loser as younger generations take over.
     
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    yep, I like our secular legal system here in the USA, but it's also at risk of attacks from the religious that want religious law to rule supreme

    a society must be vigilant and not allow any one religion to take it over as theocracies are never a good thing

    one thing I know for sure is that Christians will stand by Atheists in this country if Muslims try to push Sharia law on us, heck they pushed back against Catholics once too, in fact many of our laws protecting us from religion was because of Christian infighting ironically
     
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    And I have yet to see you stray from standard issue PC.

    Except for those cigarettes.

    But, more seriously. He wasn't for everyone forming their own morals. Only the very exceptional man could do that. He was not an egalitarian. Are you that man?
     
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    My signature is a direct quote from another person on this board that I made my signature because "Giving myself lung cancer purely to spite imaginary enemies" is the funniest ****ing thing I can imagine someone doing.

    And I'm that man, because nobody can really stop me from becoming that man or prove that I'm not.
     
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    I say my ancestors were Adam and Eve. Atheist claim their ancestors were apes. I can live with that.
     
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    LOL! Sam Harris advocated for a preemptive nuclear strike against Islamic nations. Atheists are scared shitless of the jihad.
     
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    Atheists generally value freedom - but Islam is against freedom more than almost any other belief system (along with communism.)
     
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    How about just nuke (destroy) the Kaaba - to show that their god is not actually real?
     
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    Science has proven that you, and Jesus (he approved of the Adam/Eve story), are dead wrong - Adam/Eve never existed, and most of Genesis is scientifically proven to be dead wrong. The Bible is a fairy tale for those that are afraid of their eventual death, nothing more.
     
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    "Theocracies are never a good thing"....that's because all religions are delusional, and laws based on a delusion are never EVER a good thing! It would be like if laws were made from reading, say, Lord Of The Rings.
     
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    Now I am truly disappointed. That is a real "last man" statement. Somewhere in Zarathustra he writes:

    "The last men say 'We have our little pleasures in the morning and we have our little pleasures in the evening, but we have a respect for health.'"

    Go for it! (But don't quit your day job.)
     
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    Or Das Kapital.
     
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    I've not mocked anybody who smokes cigarettes just because they want to and don't quite care about the health risks. Only one particular man who claims to be motivated by petty spite.
     
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    I agree with not mocking smokers, but.... the oldest person to have ever lived was a smoker, until a non-smoker takes that title, hard to say, so may not be a number one health risk for them
     
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    in the USA Christians are the biggest threat to religious freedom for all, but if Christians were not there, Muslims would move in to fill the void, no doubt about that
     
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    And that proof is????????????
     
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    If Jesus of Nazereth WERE around today, he would be leading the charged AGAINST "Christianity". Just like his attacks against the money lenders in the Temple. He would be ashamed of what people have turned his name into.
     
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    Nonsense - Jesus is so full of hatred that that psycho to this very day (or else he'd have spoken up - assuming he's "divine" as claimed) won't even let, say, ethical Buddhists into his invisible bigoted gated-community up in the sky (per many Biblical verses). Chocked-full of hatred for innocent people. God/Jesus is the ultimate ego-maniac, either "believe that he's real" or that psycho set up a system where you get barbarically burned alive - burned alive for much much longer than even HITLER tortured his very worst Jewish enemy. So Hitler kind of seems like a step UP, ethically, than God/Jesus. Will God/Jesus change that policy today (he's all-powerful, he COULD, right?)? A sane, loving person of course WOULD.....but not God/Jesus, because he's either a legend or not sane/loving - either way far below my standards to worship.
     
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    Evolution has been proven, and the earth is not 6000 years old or so like the geneologies from Adam to Jesus to the present add up to. God/Jesus failed - so of course they are not divine as advertised.....the ultimate con-job - no one has conned more people than Jesus.
     

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