Attack Against Christendom

Jesus Christ, being God, inspired all of scripture, so in a sense there's no part of the Bible you can hide from.

BTW, I appreciate your civil dialogue on a subject too many lose it over.

 

If biblical marriage was intended to be between one man and one woman, why did the characters have multiple wives? Can you name any guy beside Adam who had only one wife?

 

Too bad the Jesus character never spoke to a repentant homosexual.

 

or a repentant bankrobber, or a repentant pedophile, or a repentant swindler. You need a specific example to get the point?

 

The Paul character gave specific examples.

 

Yes, the "historical Paul" did give more specifics by the same Spirit of Jesus the Christ.

 

Paul did, speaking of homosexuals among other sinners in I Cor. 6:11:

"And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

 

Like divorce, God tolerated polygamy, but never condoned it.

 

Journalist and Christian minister, Chris Hedges, gives an insightful lecture on the rise of Christian Fascism in Germany during the 1930's and in America today.

The mask of Christianity is dissolving by the Nationalists Christians' own idolatrous faith to reveal their true identity as fascists attacking the weak with sadistic demonic enthusiasm.

Hedges' lecture was given in Canada which is also seeing the same fascist phenomenon infiltrating Canadian educational institutions and internet media through dark money subsidies.

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Notice how all three of those are hurting someone and violating their rights but a homosexual in a consensual relationship isn't? Doesn't that strike you as odd?

 

Yet he supposedly condoned slavery and infanticide, which are far worse than divorce and polygamy.

 

I just love it when Christian fascists get on their high horse because I have collected over 350 cases of mainly Protestant Christian ministers convicted of child molestation in their congergations. I think I am going to post them all in this thread. It may take me a year however. One signifier of an active Christian pedophile is they mainly preach, write, or blog against gays nonstop. I'll do that case next. Let's start with ...

Brother Tony Leyva (Lay-va): Also known as "Super Christian" for wearing a Costume while Preaching to Children.

One excellent example is the disgusting case of Fundamentalist pastor Rev. Tony Leyva, (pronounced “Lay-va” a Cuban American that began preaching when he was only 9 years old in Miami.

The Rev. Tony Leyva would as an adult dress up in a Superman costume calling himself “Super-Christian” to attract children in churches across the American South such as Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio,Virginia, Midwest, Pennsylvania and later the Caribbean for about 25 years.

Rev. Tony Leyva was very popular in those mostly Southern States.

Rev. Leyva became so well known among American Fundamentalist Christians that he even replaced Rev. Jimmy Swaggart with a weekly television show while Swaggart was off air dealing with a sex scandal in which Swaggart was being blackmailed for blackmailing another Christian minister for his sexually hypocrisy. The whole scene was really sick.

Yes, Brother Tony Leyva and Brother Jimmy Swaggart were the two most popular Christian ministers in America—and still might be so.

The Rev. Leyva was later discovered by police to have molested over 800 boys in fundamentalist churches across the American South since 1969. Brother Leyva was deeply involved in child sex slavery and rented the children out to his friends and customers. Police estimated that Rev. Leyva personally molested more children than any single sexual predator discovered at the time, and this record may still stand.

The Leyva story was blacked out by most of the American media monopolies so you probably never heard of this scandal even though both ministers were the most popular Christian ministers in America. And guess what? Swaggart returned to Christian TV. The Repeating episode was really popular!

Yet, daily these Christian cultists, like Mike Pence, stand up in public claiming to be some kind of moral authority.

There is a 1996 book entitled "Brother Tony's Boys: The Largest Case of Child Prostitution in U.S. History: The True Story." Author Mike Echols, a California-based child advocate.

The story below is about one of the young victims.
See news article:
Old Wounds Reopened
By Leef Smith
November 24, 2002

Today WBRC reports that Paul Action Bowen, 39-year-old Alabama pastor, is in jail for allegedly engaging in sex acts with victims ages 13-16 and the Christian pastor is still in contact with his victims, according to authorities.

 

They violate the culture when they present it as a norm.You should just keep your activity private.

 

Perhaps the Pastor never took it to heart that Jesus said "it would be better for that man to have a giant millstone tied around his neck and tossed into the sea." You are unsuccessful in smearing my faith.

 

They smear your own demonic faith.

 

Jesus was a Jew, he wasn't a Christian because Christians didn't exist when he supposedly lived.

 

Repeating an incorrect statement does not make it correct. Explain your claim that Jesus was the only Christian.

 

In one sense it is true that Jesus was the only Christian because he was perfect according to Christian theology. However, the "Christian Pattern" means to mimic the life of Jesus. So one doesn't have to be morally perfect to be a Christian, but rather mimic the Pattern so even the most uneducated, like an ancient fisherman, could be Christian. But with that said, a Christian is more rare than a genius (Kierkegaard).

 

I wanted to thank you for sharing this video-lecture. I was not familiar with Chris Hedges before your post, but am very impressed with his knowledge & insight. I hope many forum members take the time to listen to it.

 

Norms are not objectively better. Plenty of non-normal things are ethically neutral. Every religion that demands normality was once not-normal itself. Your attempt to prove that homosexuality and cheating are somehow worse than slavery and the murder of children has failed. Normality is perhaps the poorest measure imaginable. No critically-thinking being can accept it as the standard for morality. Even the most elementary examination reveals its flaws. Any emotionally mature being surely realizes this fact . . . or only pretends not to for the sake of an argument that they obviously realize is doomed.

 

What a moronic statement with absolutely no basis of anything.....not even close to truth. I believe I know your godless talking point, but I'll let you go ahead and state it, then we will enter into a discussion.

 

Hiding is clearly not a solution.

Also, claiming that this is a "culture" issue reinforces the position that it does have to do with religion - it's just something that you want to impose on others.

About 60% of America approves of same sex marriage. Given that the majority claim to be Christian, it's clear that large numbers of Christians do not agree with you.

I don't see support for your ideas in anything Jesus did or said. Frankly, I think this is all about you, not your God (which not all accept in the way you do).

 

So you and the so called "Christians" must ask themselves a serious question. Knowing anything about the Historical Jesus as well as the alive and resurrected Jesus, "do you believe Jesus would actually officiate a homosexual wedding?" If your answer is yes, you know very little and claim to be a Christian merely by association or birth.

Just because one may live in a garage, does not make one a car. Out of your "majority" there is a large segment that do not believe or trust in the provision God has made through Jesus Christ. A good many neither believe or meditate upon that.

 

The question has to be a little different than that.

It has more to do with tolleration of the beliefs of others.

To what extent do you get to use the power of government to stop others who don't share your beliefs?

You can bring Jesus into that if you want, but I don't see there being a record of Jesus being intollerant of others, or of discriminating aginst others.

 

Of course I did not say "would Jesus tolerate a "homosexual wedding?". You implied that. What I said was "would Jesus officiate a homosexual wedding?". if you call yourself a Christian,you would no better. The argument was put forward that a great many Christians approve of homosexual marriage. Just blew that argument out of the water.