Aussie has the answer for US gun control

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Different country, different culture. No boarders, homogenous population. There are a lot of variables you don't aknowledge because you don't want to.
     
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    Aussie has the answer for US gun control

    No. Sorry. This is not the answer I am looking for:
     
  3. Xenamnes

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    Such is not how the matter works. When one presents a claim, especially a claim as nonsensical and ridiculous as what is being presented on the part of yourself, the burden of proof is on yourself to present the actual evidence to back up the claim.
     
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    Homogenous culture my aching............:roll:
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Proven loads of times: Here is a simple quiz for you. Which category out of "gunshot wound", "stab wound", "beating", "other" and "unknown" has the biggest rate of fall after 1996 over the period in the link provided by a gun fanatic?

    Cause of death, 1989-90 to 2013-14 (N)

    http://crimestats.aic.gov.au/NHMP/1_trends/#causeDeath

    ACTUAL EVIDENCE PRESENTED.The myth perpetrated by gun fanatics that gun bans leads to an increase in knives being used in murder has been shown to be false
     
  6. Polydectes

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    How many people do you have entering your country from the southern border? How many other places do they come from?

    Australia's isolated you don't have any borders it doesn't even share a continent with another country.

    Yeah it's a homogeneous culture compared to the great melting pot.
     
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    I noticed that too :). Not too long ago, those same type of posters were creating threads that Australia was being over run with immigrants aka Muslims . It's the same when they attack the UK. One moment they create threads that the UK is much more violent than the US then in the same breath they will create threads that the US need their guns because the US is so violent and our police don't need to be armed because we are not as violent as US. And to defend their reputation they will blame the violence on anyone who is not traditionally white
     
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    Yes everything anybody ever says that doesn't affirm your beliefs is racism.

    Here's why there is a division. You don't want to listen. You just want to tell everyone else how stupid they are for not agreeing with you.

    It's kind of like when I came out in the Catholic Church. You are the Catholic Church.
     
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    The gun violence is mostly in minority districts
     
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    Look at you, unable to prove your claim and trying to weasel out of doing so.

    You repeated the myth perpetrated by anti-gun fanatics that:
    "...the gun ban resulted in lower murders by firearm...."

    Prove it.
     
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    Yes but one with a bloody low probability of being due to anything else
     
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    He speaks for more of us ,than you would believe. There is truth in humour and most of is see the issue much as he does
     
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    None of which proves conclusively, beyond all reasonable doubt, that it was firearm-related restrictions, and firearm-related restrictions exclusively, that resulted in the apparent numbers. It is nothing more than the causation/correlation substitution fallacy being presented. It dismisses every other factor and claims they are of no importance, regardless of what they may have entailed.
     
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    Better yet disprove it

    https://sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/03/13/gun-laws-stopped-mass-shootings-in-australia.html
     
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    For such to ultimately be the case, the nation of Australia would not have been in need of firearm-related restrictions to begin with. The only way firearm-related restrictions can be credited with being the sole cause in the perceived drop in firearm-related homicides, would be if the people of the nation of Australia were not particularly inclined to use firearms for homicide-related purposes to begin with.

    It has been admitted by yourself that many who owned prohibited firearms retained possession and simply chose to bury them rather than surrender them. And yet despite the presence of so many firearms, and so many being smuggled into the country on a daily basis, more mass shootings are not being committed with any degree of regularity. So ultimately how did this occur when there are so many firearms that are easily capable of being utilized for the purpose of committing a mass shooting?
     
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    You cannot prove this to be true.
     
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    What's that?
    You know the claim that "the gun ban resulted in lower murders by firearm" cannot be proven?
    Thought so.
    Aside from the fact this is irrelevant to the claim discussed above....
    Australians have legal access to firearms that are more than useful in creating large numbers of casualties/deaths in a mass shootings - why don't they happen there?
     
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    Doesn’t matter if they did bury them

    Got them off the streets didn’t it?

    Sheer stats old boy

    It’s fewer firearms available then the probability of some lunatic out for death by cop is lower

    Simple
     
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    Are buried firearms incapable of being dug up? Are any of those firearms currently buried in the ground, in the possession of those who would be inclined to use them in a criminal and murderous fashion?
     
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    Note you did not auote everything in my post

    Lols!
     
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    I note you did not address -anything- in my post, which addressed YOUR post in toto.

    Why did you not address anything in my post?
    Because you know you cannot.

    Thus, I accept your concession.
     
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    I remember now why I had you on ignore
     
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    Because I ask questions you cannot answer and demand that you soundly support your claims?
    That is, you know your positions are unsound and don't want to be reminded of it?
    Yep! Run away!
     
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    ACTUAL EVIDENCE PRESENTED.The myth perpetrated by gun fanatics that gun bans leads to an increase in knives being used in murder has been shown to be false
     
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