Australia in a new free trade frenzy....pro and cons please!

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  1. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    DV,
    you should write novels, you really have what it takes, seriously....:applause:

    Life is always changing, if it isn't we are dying... Eric Burdon - tobacco road (listen to the long version, excellent music)

    At the moment we have more industries closing down (or soon to be), despite being under the watch of a Liberal government, and I wonder whether its not worth fighting for.

    I think Abbott's has to go. If we continue the path (directed by him), we will be at the mercy of others, one day. I wish I could see the future a bit more positive....

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    Our wage costs compared to South Korea are very similar. They have the whip hand over Australians, because Australians politicinas are allowing them to have the whip hand over us - these politicians have stopped fighting for Australia and the Australians people, and just want an easy ride for their tax payers salaries, so they sell us out at every opportunity without putting in any real effort. What they are doing to Australia and the Australian people will never directly effect them anyway. They have the money and the contacts to abandon Australia, and to go to another country, and leave the rest of us to swim for our lives - that's what parasites do.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage

    If Asian countries in the region are protecting their manufacturing and industries with tariffs and taxes, then why the hell is Australia not doing the same? All people have to do is open their eyes and look around, and they will this country is dying, because we don't own anything anymore. These scum-bag politicians cannot even create a road anymore without selling half off to private companies, who in turn, will gouge money form the people forever by putting a toll on a road that the tax payers paid half to make. Where is the bloody logic and sense in this?
     
  3. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Ah Eric Burdon, the irrepressible beast, read about him, fascinating man, he is quoted as saying it's been a 'wasted life', I think not, it was from people like him that we have a lot of the freedoms we have today. They challenged the "man", freedom, society and sexuality. We need to stir the pot every now and then. It needs stirring again, as our population, communication and technology grows exponentially, we need to adjust more often, more precisely and more direly.
     
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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Music I think is mankind's greatest invention, well not so much invention as discovery. It can be described purely mathematically and boggle one's mind, it can make our hearts sing .. or cry .. it can make us think or stop thinking.

    The other day for a completely different reason I had a song from my past brought to my attention, the particular line of relevance was
    The boy's river is just one of what is now most's fate. Agriculture and now minerals, possible CSG and God knows what else will ensure they don't survive. I know we need to feed our world, clothe and shelter them. But do we need that many shirts, 2 or 3 wide screen TV's. Look around you and honestly tell me how much stuff you have you REALLY do not need. That's a good place to start actually, now I did say REALLY NEED.
     
  5. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Yeap,
    as Ludwig van Beethoven stated “Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. Music is the electrical soil in which the spirit lives, thinks and invents.”
    Maybe our current government should listen to some more profound music.......
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  6. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Couldn't hurt, they seem a bit mad.
     
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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    A lot of posters here seem to skirt around facing the truth. Over the millennia man has tried to civilise himself and until resent times it has usually been the ruling powers that made the rules. The rules have always been the majority controlled by the minority. The rich and or powerful have always had dibs on the spoils, filtering only enough down to the masses to appease them enough to retain control.

    Early on, leaders learnt that controlling knowledge, education and the lower classes access to them kept them blissfully ignorant. Burning books, texts, religious teachings and controlling the media were their way of ensuring only what they (the leaders) wanted the lower classes to hear was heard.

    Today, education, information, news, truth and lies are all freely available to most through cheap phones and computers via the internet. Every mobile phone user is a potential new reporter, not much goes on these days we don't know about or find out about.

    People are not so stupid any more, we need to take that into account, they are often miss informed, but they are not stupid. Change will come, big change, we can embrace it or fight it, but either way it will come.
     
  8. aussiefree2ride

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    Animal farm.
     
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    yeah and 1984
     
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    Emotional contagion is becoming the new form of human expression, driven by the social media platforms - it has little room for truth of fact, just truth of emotion. I think it's a step backward for humanity and view it as part of the self-extinction phase of humanity (how very pleasant sounding) - which is a phase which exists in nature when a species experiencing increasing growth like us, and has no predators and limited space to grow. Limited resources also applies because because we end up eating our own poop LOL sorta thing. The emotional contagion is a mental symptom of overpopulation (hastened and exemplified by social media). People just dont have the time or care to find the full truth... just look at what journalism as become - they are leading the charge downwards by being so biased on politics and desperate for shorter sharper punchlines with 'pull'.

    Previously peoples culture represented a baseline for such things to exist as perspectives, but now people align with popular concepts as a culture... and this destroys the individual more then any big brother authority could.
     

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