Australia's Hard Choice Between China and the US

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  1. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    and somehow you think china gonna invade Aus? lol come on what Australia have other than desert and wasteland.
     
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    hey iPhone X is not cheap, and its still manufacture in China, guess who got the lion share of profit.
     
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    Of course not as long as the aussies obey their chinese masters completely therevwill be no need to send the Red Army there
     
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    Apple?
     
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    if US pre-emp strike NK, I doubt any nation will join US(china might not even join the war), if NK strik SK/US, then china wont join anyway. btw, 50s Korean war, china basically use its sub-par military peasant to have a stale mate with ally force, what do you think would happen now a land war in asia. Never have land war in asia.
     
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    drink too much coolaid, china has its hand full in other area, what do they gain by invading a land mass that made up mostly desert etc.
     
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    I guess if you call losing 400K in a matter of a few days and being stopped from going any further than they did. A stalemate rather than a loss. Then that's on you.
     
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    They wont have to stretch the Red Army

    The aussies will behave
     
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    Questions questions. I guess that doo-doo does stink after all.
     
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    pretty sure that the bigger danger in such a situation would be a "spontanious revolt" or coup to a more us favorable goverment then the red army invading australia
     
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    Well you should at least when you post something pretending it a fact admit that it actually your opinion with no evidence to back it up.
     
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    And they gave it away in order that the big banks and MNCs, and the people who own them, (no, you as a stock holder do not own shi*t) might max out their profits with slave labor. Treasonous bastards, all of the politicians who gave them what they wanted.

    There would never have been a president or congress, up until the 1980s, onward, who would have ever enriched and empowered a communist state, so much that they will be the largest economy in the world in short order. That these bastards did it, should be a hanging offense. These are not americans, but damned traitors to this nation. And the people in the past before 1980 would have agreed!!! They deserve to be hung. If not for their treason, then for their stupidity, which is destroying this country.
     
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    where you get lose 400k in few days, source. 400k is close to entire PLA losses in Korean war. remember the allied lose is also in the 100+ thousands. This was just done by human wave back then, now PLA not only has enough solider but much better equipped. read any article, land war in Asia should be avoid at all cost.
     
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    I dont how you explain those three

    Thanks to those three presidents baby boomers will be the first generation in history to leave America worse than they found it
     
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    To be fair, this really did not involve Pres. Reagan. The neoliberals, like Bush Sr. used the GOP coming back and exploited it. Then they talked Clinton into joining them, make it a two party conspiracy. And yes, I see it as a conspiracy, because it changed how this country had operated in trade, set up by our very founders. And look at what it has done to america. I cannot recognize her.
     
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    They're better than Ukraine, those Orthodox have become totally heathen, it seems. But then again, there's the Serbs, they're good Catholics, but not very good Xtians by your lights..

    CARAMABA!!, could it be that other factors besides religion might have some effect on how "moral" a county is?
     
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    I didn't say that China is gonna invade Aus. I didn't specify any country. Your the one who linked my mention of China (as a trading partner) to being the invading country.

    Um, cities perhaps? What a ludicrously ignorant comment.
     
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    Its a similar situation in the states I think, although I never hear anything about it in Australia. I can understand how they might be on welfare due to not finding work, but I don't understand how they can be on the streets. What an absolute disgrace it is. They should absolutely get special welfare treatment whereby the government assesses each person and figures out their expenses, rent etc. and pays them whatever is required. Is there absolutely zero special treatment from the time they retire? This is a subject which I really don't know much about and on one hand would like to know more, but on the other hand I don't want to know because I fear that it will get my blood boiling.
     
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    What evidence do you have to back up that claim?

    People held concepts of right and wrong long before Judeo-Christianity evolved.

    And the Chinese do have concepts of right and wrong. The core concept of Confucianism is benevolence.

    I have no interest in the weather.
     
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    i thought that was just East Asia, or maybe even just SE Asio. Asia is the largest continent, vast really beyond quick comprehension. To say don't have a war there is to say don't have a war....(not a bad idea, yes, but HOW)
     
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    You mention china fight with aussies in your previous post, so the only way for that to happen is either they invade aus or australia involved in asia war with china(like korea war, or taiwan war). if its the latter wth are aussies doing there, i'm guessing follow US like a good servant? you ought think your own policy that benefit you.

    look at the map, how much australia land is desert, how many is cities, and why would china invade australia city when they can build city like beijing/ shanhai etc. There is no value to invade australia, and if they do, they gonna lost alot ppl due to australia geography(they have to invade from NW, which is all barren land).
     
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    yea look at soviet-afghanistan, look at US-afghanistan war, we still stuck there. vietnam war, look at WWII Nazi invade of russia. Asia either has good geography that prevent enemy invasion or massive ppl for land war. vietnam/afghanistan/russia/SE asia are former, china has too many ppl to fight. I'm not talking about air/navy war, but actual land war where we need put soldier on the ground by the tens thousands.

    but your right asia is big place, some central asia are easier to invade due to its landscape, but SE asia, china, russia, asia mountain region etc are much more difficult. I was refer to these countries.
     
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    Okay, here is what I said, read it again:

    Now, where in that do I mean any fight with China?

    Uh, maybe because they can build MORE cities? Look, I'm not saying that China is likely to invade us, but the reason they're not going to invade isn't because there's no value in it!

    You should know that the Japanese invaded our east coast in WWII! What qualifies you to say that we could only be invaded from NW?
     
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    The amount of gold doesn't cover the amount of all the goods and even services produced. If we still lived like in 18th century - it would be enough. Making the economy choking without the money was not the best of choices, so the decision of American economists and politicians had sense. However they really broke the tool and money out of a useful tool turned into the biggest problem of the world (although USD for international trade has been really good for the US creating wealth out of nothing). This is why money needs to be replaced.

    If we talk about bitcoins and other unique identificators it has a chance to replace the present money. In theory.

    Exactly. The money started to created more problems than use for humanity. This is why it needs to bee replaced. The only problem are the people who are doing virtually nothing useful for the society except for possessing the money earned by former generations. If money disappears today then tomorrow they will find themselves falling from the top to the bottom. This is why I don't believe (I don't see) suh a thing happening in reality.

    Just as I said. If the quality of monarch is better than the quality of republicans or democrats than monarchy would be better for the USA here and now. Expecially if they have to choose between Trump and Ophra at next elections.

    The debt won't be paid anyway. The politicians would never pay for their country from their sponsors' money. Democracy doesn't work like that. A monarch or a revolutionary could kill the reachest to use their money, but representative democracy doesn't work like that. The military of the US won't give up until they don't get orders from politicians. It's a bad circle. There's no way out. It's either the world gets rottening with the US at head risking a global nuclear war more and more or the world finds different rules, different aims and 'reboots' with the US retaining its global leadership. in a slightly reformed way. This would make it less painful for the US as a country and people and reduce the risks of war.
     
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    It's not enough, but I do hear they generally get a good retirement. What I don't like is the horror stories of guys who were "busted out" and then lose their retirement for looking cross-eyed at a general. If you did honest wrong you should expect punishment, fair enough, but there are many, MANY ways an honest mistake can ruin someone unjustifiably in the military.

    No one who has ever been in the military should ever be on the streets. The government should run special hotels if they must.
     
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