Autopsy Shows George Floyd Would Have Died Anyways

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  1. stratego

    stratego Well-Known Member

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    Autopsy report showed that George Floyd tested positive for Covid, had sickle cell disease, presumed positive for cannibis, had fentanyl and caffeine. Nothing Chauvin did caused his death. He wasn't murdered. He would have died anyways that day from being in such poor health.
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    Pure hogwash!
    The private autopsy by doctors hired by Mr. Floyd’s family determined that he died not just because of the knee on his neck — held there by the officer, Derek Chauvin — but also because of two other officers who helped pin him down by applying pressure on his back.

    The autopsy says Floyd had tested positive for the novel coronavirus on April 3. A post-mortem nasal swab confirmed that diagnosis. The report notes that because a positive result for coronavirus can persist for weeks after the disease has resolved, "the result most likely reflects asymptomatic but persistent ... positivity from previous infection."
    Floyd also had heart disease, hypertension and sickle cell traita mostly asymptomatic form of the more serious sickle cell disease, an inherited blood disorder that primarily affects African Americans.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't fight anti-police street legends with scientific autopsy findings. That dog ain't gonna hunt.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Mostly because it's inconsequential. Lets say for the sake of argument that Floyd was definitely going to die two hours after this incident occurred. That's not when he died, or why he died.

    He died because an officer obstructed his breathing for no apparent reason.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe Floyd shouldn't have resisted arrest then. It's on all the rest of the police footage you're not allowed to see.
     
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    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    So?
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    The official autopsy report said there was no evidence of asphyxiation. So what you have is battling autopsy reports. He said, he said.
     
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    Exactly.

    I wonder if someone who intends to sue hires someone for an autopsy that doesn't show EXACTLY what they want to read in the lawsuit? floyd got what he should have gotten when he broke into a ladies home and pointed a gun at her stomach.
     
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    When a man is sitting in a car saying he can't breathe (long before he was put on the pavement), he could be in cardiac arrest. My sister-in-laws best friend's husband died of a heart attack this winter. He was shoveling snow, came back inside, sat on the couch and said he could not breathe. She ran across the street to the fire department, when they got back he was already unconscious. He died of a cardiac arrest.
     
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    He did not die of asphyxiation. He was already suffering from shortness of breath indicating the coronary/pulmonary arrest he was entering while he was just sitting in the car.

    BTW this is from the Minneapolis police training

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    The punishment for resisting arrest is not death.
     
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    You can actually read what the autopsy from the medical examiner says here -> https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MNHENNE/2020/06/01/file_attachments/1464238/2020-3700 Floyd, George Perry Update 6.1.2020.pdf

     
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    And yet he died with an officer's knee on his neck.

    I'm not one to think the police are guilty just because someone died. In most of the cases that make the rounds on this forum, I think the police are justified. But this isn't one of those times.
     
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    What is the punishment for resisting arrest then? Licorice handcuffs and cotton candy leg chains? The guy made some bad life decisions and he died.
     
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    The medical term for heart attack in an autopsy is "myocardial infarction" not "cardiac arrest". Cardiac arrest is actually a broader term than a heart attack. People who die of a heart attack experience cardiac arrest, as do people who die from drowning. Cardiac arrest is a broader medical term that can describe various causes of death.

    The questions isn't whether or not George Floyd experienced cardiac arrest, but rather what caused his cardiac arrest to occur. According to the autopsy from the medical examiner, George Floyd did not experience a heart attack
     
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    YES WE All die ULTIMATELY No need to hasten the process as Chauvin did.
     
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    No actually, it's a prison sentence that ranges from 4 months to 2 years, which comes after a trial by jury and sentencing by a judge
     
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    Well there you go. He shouldn't have resisted it's crime to do so.
     
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    Apparently if you're high on meth, opiates and THC and have underlying health issues YOU DO!
     
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    Gee, and the guy resisted and died, damn that was stupid :(
     
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    Fair enough! He died of a myocardial EVENT brought on by overly excited and a mixture of illegal drugs found in his system, case closed..
     
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    I hereby declare if I ever get arrested while on coke, heroin, meth and/or ketamine I release all lab results to the press. I probably would've died anyway.
     
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    I don't disagree with that

    No, there was no heart attack according to the autopsy
     
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    Floyd should have cooperated with the police. That's what I do. So I expect it of others. Actions have consequences. Had he cooperated the police would have taken him to a hospital where his drug induced state could have been cared for. I saw the video where for 10 minutes the police tried to get him out of the car. I'm sorry a life was lost but he had drugs in his system, acted like a moron, tried to pass a counterfeit bill -- the police had no choice but to try to arrest him. The knee on his neck didn't kill him, the illegal drugs did. An honest media would explain that.
     
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    You must be living in an alternate universe where when a cop murders a handcuffed defenseless person (captured on video and being used as EVIDENCE), he's "just doing his job" and the murder he's being charged with in his trial is closed while the jury selection process is still ongoing.

    This was the headline 3 days ago:

    Jury selection begins at Derek Chauvin trial in death of George Floyd

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/derek-chauvin-trial-jury-selection-begins-in-death-of-george-floyd/
     
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