Banana Republicans want to weaken your vote

Talking point Talking point Talking point Talking point Talking point.

That is all I hear out of the OWS crowd nowadays. How can a group that lacks a fundamental understanding of what the problem is hope to offer up solutions?

 

Without voter ID we'll never know, that's what Democrats are counting on. If they aren't voting then why fight voter ID?

Not enough manpower and you know that.

So why register them in the first place? Just for fun?

 

Did you not even read what I said? A large portion of the voters who voted for prop 8 were NOT NATIVE CALIFORNIANS. How can "the voters" decide on an issue when that issue belongs to another state?


And I'm not even a proponent of absolute democracy, I just like arguing with all of you paranoid "mob rule" types. Quite the boogieman you've invented there.

 

What did anything I say have to do with OWS?

 

I just took a wild guess that you are a supporter based upon your statements.

Am I wrong?

 

Since YOU republicans are the ones going ape-sht crazy about "out of control voter fraud", maybe you can give me the total number of proven voter fraud cases that would have been prevented with your asinine voter ID laws? Can you give me the numbers? I can't find any because there is none! Even your beloved Fox can't find any.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/24/voter-id-laws-target-rarely-occurring-voter-fraud/

 

Then what happens when a presidential candidate FAILS TO ACHIEVE A MAJORITY VOTE, such as BOTH of Clinton's elections to the role?

DOes Clinton NOT GET TO BE PRESIDENT, because the MAJORITY VOTED AGAINST HIM...(both times, btw.)?

 

Another asnine Leftninny Doofi post about voter ID. Without voter id, we are MISSING the majority of illegal voting.

Duh....

 

People fight voter ID because they believe people should not be blocked from voting because they do not have money or physical means to get an ID that would be approved by the Right.

The Right contends employers are fooled by fake ID's into hinting 11 MILLION illegal aliens, yet supposedly, according to them, voter ID would STOP "voter fraud".

We all know it is simply to knock the poor elderly and working people out of voting, who are heavily Democratic.

What BS!

You are in effect saying that, in the ENTIRE COUNTRY, there is not ONE Right Wing sheriff or police chief or mayor who does NOT pursue the huge headlines they would generate by rounding up some HUNDREDS of illegal or fraudulent voters that your indictments imply!

Utter BS, and YOU know THAT!

To make money. Because the actual collectors, or the companies that do it, usually get paid bonuses for "productivity".

Some Republican registration companies were caught throwing away Democrat registrations and only submitting Republican registrations, so the Democrats, who were thinking they had registered, would show up on election day and discover they could not vote, so it became REQUIRED to turn in ALL registrations collected by ANYBODY, no matter how obviously BS they were.

ACORN, as one group that has worked to sign up voters on the lower economic spectrum, are REQUIRED BY LAW to turn over EVERY application and did so, while also informing the election commissions which registrations they thought were likely faked.

But for ALL groups, the lowly paid collectors MUST be paid for a day's work, even if fired for having every registration read "Mickey Mouse".

 

Why do you say that, you are talking about the people who are not stupid enough to believe the people elect the President. The President is elected by the States. The smaller population states will never allow a change.

 

Notice how the right wings loons have no evidence of proven voter fraud cases preventable by voter ID laws, NONE!

 

Then they like my Dad before his passing had an absentee ballot mailed to his registered address. No excuse for walk ins.

 

Oh please, how can anyone quantify something that can't be proven? If voter fraud is near non existent like you say then there should be no objection to walk in voters showing ID. Folks that can't get around or infirmed can get an absentee ballot mailed to their registered address.

 

We are a representative republic, not democracy.

How many times does this have to be explained to ignorant liberals?

 

How do you prove it? And what is the problem, I have to id myself all the time, often to government. Why should such an important act as voting be exempt, that's totally stupid.

Voter fraud is real: And voter ID laws are really needed; they are not racist
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 12-18-11 | Jack Kelly

Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:23:22 AM by afraidfortherepublic

The state chairman of Indiana's Democratic Party resigned Monday as a probe of election fraud in the 2008 Democratic presidential primary widened.

State law requires a presidential candidate to gather 500 valid signatures in each county to qualify for the ballot. Barack Obama may not have met it. Investigators think 150 of the 534 signatures the Obama campaign turned in for St. Joseph County may have been forged.

~snip~

Former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, who is black, said vote fraud is rampant in African-American districts like his in Alabama.

"The most aggressive contemporary voter suppression in the African-American community is the wholesale manufacture of ballots at the polls and absentee, in parts of the Black Belt," Mr. Davis said. "Voting the names of the dead, and the nonexistent, and the too mentally impaired to function cancels out the votes of citizens who are exercising their rights."

~snip~

"Concerns about voter identification laws affecting turnout are much ado about nothing," concluded researchers at the universities of Delaware and Nebraska after examining election data from 2000 through 2006.

~snip~

This year there have been investigations, indictments or convictions for vote fraud in California, Texas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina and Maryland. In all but one case, the alleged fraudsters were Democrats.

~snip~

Fraud of the magnitude which swings elections typically combines absentee ballot fraud and voter registration fraud. At least 55 employees or associates of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now have been convicted of registration fraud in 11 states, says Matthew Vadum of the Capital Research Center, who's written a book about ACORN.

Of 1.3 million new registrations ACORN turned in in 2008, election officials rejected 400,000.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2821993/posts

BTW I vote for Davis in the last gubernatorial primary here.

 

Voter ID laws make it harder for the minorities and the poor to vote, that's why we are against it. Hundreds of millions of people have voted during past decade, resulting in infinitesimal number of "voter fraud cases", of which none would have been preventable by voter ID laws, NONE.
The reason right wingers are pushing for voter ID laws is to suppress the minorities.

 

It puts no more burden than anyone else, it puts no more burden than getting a library card, a drivers license, an EBIT card, cash a check or a myriad of other normal daily routines.

 

You still haven't explained how? I already pointed out in order to apply for social services (ie: welfare, food stamps, WIC's, Medicaid) you have to produce photo ID with your application.

The VA has their own photo ID and offer mail drops for the homeless vets.

http://www.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=892

 

What an utterly racist thing to say.

 

Not to mention "jaw-droppingly stupid".

 

Please produce ONE REAL, LEGAL VOTER who is absolutely incapable of obtaining a photo ID, not an imaginary, hypothetical Leftninny-bullcrap person, and ACTUAL, LEGAL VOTER who cannot obtain a photo ID.

Or **** with the silliness; Americans aren't buying the OBVIOUS attempt to facillitate illegal voting, double voting, dead people voting, etc., by the people who INVENTED IT...

 

Wow! You claim that there is "no such problem as voter fraud" and to prove your point you present two examples of...voter fraud. Critical thinking fail!

BS. When I lived in Memphis, after the first state senator from my district was sent to prison, his sister ran for his seat. She won the primary by 20 votes and the general by 13 votes. The election committee investigation confirmed that dead people, felons, people living outside the district, and people who weren't even in Memphis on election day cast votes. As a result, the election was voided and 37 indictments, including election fraud, followed the subsequent TBI investigation.

But according to you, "numbers do not exist!"

 

So, how did your housebound dad renew his drivers license, which he would have needed to vote in your new world?

And he had a house to be confined in, which is ANOTHER requirement to get an official ID.

 

Here are some descriptions of difficulties with IDs.

People should understand that many of the proposals also set VERY strict standards as well.

 

100 of millions of people have voted in past decade; can any of you right wing loons show a single case of proven voter fraud case that would have been prevented by voter ID law?
Just admit what voter ID law's goal is: it is to suppress the minorities and poor vote.