Bank of America will stop lending to Private Prisons and ICE

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you need to ask yourself if you support the inhumane conditions migrants are being held in right now. It's much like how could any American with a conscience support tent cities? Immigration aside, why would anyone support for-profit prisons this day in age? I hope Chase and JP Morgan are listening. This is the attitude big banks need going forward.
     
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    To those who value humane treatment of citizens and migrants alike, this is excellent news. Midnight seizures of migrants and inhumane conditions at holding facilities should not be tolerated at any level. And for-profit prisons should be defunded.
     
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    If you really care about human rights, then you must recognize that what ICE is doing at the border, particularly with those children, doesn't comply with any standards of human rights, & therefore, doesn't deserve our support. They appear to have more in common with fascist police forces than a democratic law enforcement group.
     
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    Come on....Repubs don't care about inhumane conditions....LET EM SWEAT!

    but Go With God....
     
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    The closer we get to the conditions of 1930"s Germany...the louder the trump loons applaud!
     
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    I don't think some people appreciate the challenges that the Border Patrol have to contend with. They are having to deal with an average of 1,600 illegal crossing a day. All of their facilities are at 200%+ capacity. Doctors are having to cover up to 3-5 facilities a day as there are not enough doctors. The logistics of feeding all of the refugees is a nightmare and there is often a shortage of food to adequately feed to vast number of people. They are averaging about 3000 cases a week (about 25%) where "family units" are not really family units as the kids have no DNA match to the "parents".....and they are starting to see the same children being used over and over again by different "family units". Bedding is is short supply, as are beds themselves. Many refugees have a wide range of existing diseases/ailment and some are a hazard to spreading to other refugees, especially in the close confines of the overcrowded facilities.
     
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    Then explain to me why ICE personnel are refusing to use toothpaste, toothbrushes, diapers, etc., donated & delivered to their facilities to help? Also, why did the facilities available to Obama during his administration work well enough to make him the most successful enforcer of immigration law since the 1970's? Trump's zero tolerance policy created this mess. The fastest way to eliminate it would be to stop that policy & resume those followed during Obama's term.
     
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    With as many crazies out there, would you dispense donated items to children? If a contaminated donated item was given to the children and one go seriously sick or even died, the doodoo would hit the fan.

    Obama did not have near the volume that they are experiencing today.

    Also, Obama's deportation record is not as impressive as being reported. What was changed was how deportees were being counted (changed by Bush). This inflated the numbers reported to make it appear that Obama set records.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-deported-more-people/

    However, I will agree that Trump's zero tolerance policy did create a lot of this mess.
     
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    Your post exemplifies the distrust the Trump administration has imposed over our American society in just 3 short years. What a nasty legacy he will leave on us. How horrible that in our own country, no one is to be trusted. And yet, Trump supporters still stay loyal to him. For them, Trump is more important than country. Both sad & sickening. :(
     
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    This distrust has been around long before Trump took office. The policy of the Border Patrol and ICE to not take donations of "personal items" has been in place for over 20 years that I know of.
     
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    What's imhuman is turning them to the streets to fend for themselves, what's human is making the small border communities take on the hords of illegals. If you guys cared so much pass the law to keep them coming, eliminate loophole, let them apply get accepted then sponsored to come work. Your simple logic is silly, you really think here you go follow your coyote to the nearest city and have at it is humane? Are you so damn ignorant that you can't understand that just because they made it across doesn't mean they've got a pot to piss in, food or shelter. You guys are off your rocker, if you want them so damn bad ship them to that rich California that will give them free healthcare, they can break the law and not have to pay any price. Utopia....
     
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    Actually, some form of government began in 1789, if you want to split hairs.

    The thread is about ICE. It did not exist until after the attacks at WTC, whether you are able to understand that or not, whether you are honest enough to admit, or not.
     
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    No, they combined INS with Customs(formerly part of Treasury since the government started), and came up with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE. That did not happen until after 911.

    ICE and Border Patrol became part of the new federal agency called Department of Homeland Security, created after 911.
     
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    At last we agree.
     

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