"Banning semi autos certainly WOULD address mass shootings"

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  1. TOG 6

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    You, apparently, fail to understand that my rights are not limited by your perception of need.
     
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    By unconstitutionally limiting their rights.
    Duh.
     
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    Cute disguise aside.... you present a post hoc fallacy.
     
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    Absent confiscation, you leave scores of millions of guns and hundreds of millions of magazines in circulation.
    Thus, your idea will prevent nothing.
     
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    Another post hoc fallacy.
    Speaking of you not caring... why do you not care about the 20,000 or so people who kill themselves with a gun each year?
     
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    It would most certainly not address the issue. They would just switch to other weapons.
     
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    Or use one of millions upon millions of existing weapons.
     
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    True! so to ban them you would have to some how confiscate the close to a billion guns in America that are out there.
     
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    Yep. Else, the proposed ban does nothing

    Note that all of this is rendered moot by the obviously unconstitutional nature of said ban.

    But then, Lesh doesn't care about this -- she just wants to ban as many guns as she can.
     
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    If that's the case, I'd say that pretty much every murder or crime with a firearm is probably a semi auto firearm. But the real problem in America isn't the guns. It is, of course, the person or character behind the gun. This is due to the great promiscuity of the people, and the large numbers of children born out of wedlock, who grow up without Fathers or stable loving Parents and homes. It is impossible to overstate the importance of chastity, Marriage, Fatherhood, Motherhood, Husband, Wife and a loving home. This is contrary to the liberal doctrine that men, Fatherhood, Marriage, and chastity are outdated and unnecessary. The liberal counter culture movement goes so far as to replace Fathers with food stamps, housing subsidies, day care and health care for unmarried women with children, and job training to accomplish a facsimile of a progressive nuclear family. And of course they indoctrinate them with the entitlement mentality, that they deserve charity and a fullness of lifes blessings. So they grow filled with resentment and a belief that a great injustice has been done to them to be so unhappy and unfulfilled. They are taught by liberalism that their problems are because of society, white people, unfair laws and cops. So up they grow, dissatisfied, angry, presumptuous and with utter contempt for the world around them. And how does their Father liberalism deal with them? Well he blames the gun and disarms everyone. Just so that all his little bastards and the country in general can continue in corruption. And that is progressive liberalism.
     
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    That's true. Over the course of ten years, the assault weapon ban under Clinton had no effect on the numbers of crimes and deaths involving assault weapons.
     
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    She doesn't care - she wants the state to have a monopoly on force; to his end, she wants to ban as many guns as she can.
     
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    Yes I want my toys

    A rare bit of honesty

    Newsflash...no one is taking them away
     
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    I'd say that pretty much every murder or crime with a firearm is probably a semi auto firearm


    Boom. My point exactly
     
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    If banning machine guns is Constitutional how is banning semi-autos not?

    Oh and once AGAIN...you're addressing a male not a female. Does it bother you to be wrong so often?

    Apparently not from your posts
     
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    In which case, your idea serves no purpose, except to harass the law abiding.
     
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    I laugh at your ignorance, as I can legally buy as many machine guns as I have the money for.
     
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    And if we were to make a law against them all the sudden criminals will respect the law?

    You're point is dumb.
     
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    IF you jump through a bunch pf hoops and they were made before 1984. So we should apply the same regs to semi autos?

    I agree
     
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    So you would do away with all laws because people break laws?
     
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    And so you agree -- machine guns are not banned; you knew your statement to that effect was false.

    Tell us again why you don't care about the 20,000 or so people that commit suicide each year with a gun.
     
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    It does not matter how many times you post this non-seq, it remains a non-seq.
     
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    So what. There was a time when they were all revolvers. Used to be that all words and mails were handwritten or typed on manual typewriters. There was a time when transportation was by horse or foot or buggy. Wanna throw away satellites, automatic transmissions, EFI's, and the internet, along with semi auto firearms?
     
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    Yes, anyone should be able to own a machine gun. I have no problem with that. And yes felons should be able to own whatever they want as well. The constitution still applies to them, and they should be able to defend themselves. If they commit a crime with a weapon, make the penalty death.
     
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    This is a stupid argument. Laws should exist as societal rules that ensure the most possible liberty. Not as petty tools to stop people from doing things that others don't like.

    I would do away with some laws. Some of them exist for no other reason then to stop people from doing something that other people don't like.
     

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