Barr says Russia probe was started 'without basis'

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  1. 61falcon

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    since Barr Barr Black sheep has shown himself to be the number one cheerleader in the Dirty Donald fan club, anything he says regarding any anti Donald movement or inquiry has to be taken with a great deal of skepticism???
     
  2. Paul7

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    Try to keep up, the FISA court has agreed with Barr that the original applications were not adequately predicated. The Deep State committed premeditated fraud on that court and altered exculpatory evidence.
     
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    Barr has shown no such thing.

    There's no such thing as a "Dirty Donald".

    Until there are meaningful results (high level convictions and real reforms), I remain skeptical.
     
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    It wasnt the whole warrant process for Page was a farce.. The "Dossier" was all bullshit.
     
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    And more, it wasn't just high level officials at the FBI and CIA it was them working in cahoots with a political campaign to defeat the other campaign and when that didn't work to try and bring down a duly elected President of the United States.

    Russian Disinformation Fed the FBI’s Trump Investigation
    Some answers and some new questions from newly declassified parts of an inspector general’s report.

    Declassified footnotes to a Justice Department inspector general report show that the Federal Bureau of Investigation team investigating members of the Trump campaign received classified reports in 2017 identifying key pieces of the Steele dossier as products of a Russian disinformation campaign. This might be only the tip of the iceberg because other recently declassified information demonstrates that even more disinformation may have been planted in Christopher Steele’s reporting.

    Let that sink in. The FBI knew that at least some of its evidence against the Trump campaign, and maybe more, was likely part of a Russian disinformation campaign—evidence from a source that was “central and essential” for getting the first FISA warrant. It isn’t clear what if anything the FBI did to determine whether their investigation was based in substantial part on Russian disinformation.

    Yet the FBI assistant director in charge of the investigation, Bill Priestap, told the inspector general that as of May 2017 (when Robert Mueller took over as special counsel), the FBI “didn’t have any indication whatsoever” that their evidence was part of a Russian disinformation campaign.....

    ...The Steele dossier already ranks as one of the dirtiest political tricks of all time. The Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign paid for it, laundered it through friends and allies in the Justice and State departments, and spun it into a full-blown FBI investigation of her political rival. Then, after Donald Trump was elected, it was used as a political cudgel to bludgeon his administration and set up an 18-month special counsel investigation. Now it’s been revealed the FBI had evidence that it was based in substantial part on a Russian disinformation campaign.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia...vestigation-11586548963?mod=opinion_lead_pos6
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    I see you have nothing but invective to add here, this is based on the Horowitz report are you now claiming he is a "sheep" too? Why not try dealing with the facts?
     
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    Wow the dnc and the Obama admin were literally doing what putin wanted all along. They were putin puppets
     
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    They always accuse us of the crimes they are guilty of.

    AG BARR: FBI INVESTIGATION A HISTORIC TRAVESTY
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    The government operation run against the Trump campaign and the Trump presidency is the greatest scandal in American political history. Based on the progress of the investigation he has commissioned, Attorney General Barr has arrived at the same conclusion.

    “The evidence shows that we’re not dealing with just mistakes or sloppiness. There is something far more troubling here, and we’re going to get to the bottom of it. And if people broke the law, and we can establish that with the evidence, they will be prosecuted….

    The president has every right to be frustrated, because what happened to him was one of the greatest travesties in American history. Without any basis they started this investigation of his campaign, and even more concerning, actually is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events while he was president. To sabotage the presidency.
     
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    I think the FISA judges are in on it and are now playing dumb to save themselves. They knew it was a fraud at the time.
     
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    Barr is Trump's lap dog, his opinion means nothing
     
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    Not sure if Barr did anything illegal, he is most likely smart enough not to expose himself. That said, I would say he is definitely negligent to his duties and has not placed law above politics.
     
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    What is it you think he may have done illegally and where has he been negligent and be specific not some list a meandering baseless conjecture.

    Again what was the basis for high level FBi officials to start investigating members of the Trump campaign and an investigation into "Russian collusion" with the Trump campaign?
     
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    I did not say that Barr did anything illegal. "Not sure if Barr did anything illegal"
     
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    I’m sure. Dereliction of his sworn duty to serve and protect the constitution to become trump’s lapdog is a crime.
     
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    Implying you believe he may have, there's a possibility he did, what would that be?
     
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    Can you cite the section of the US Code where that is found?
     
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    He can't. He puts up inflammatory hardcore Leftists posts and runs.
     
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    Ignoring them is the only way they can cling to the LW party line.
     
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    I think your going to see when the John Durham report comes out that the investigation of Trump was illegal. The main evidence they had on Trump came from the phony dossier that the FBI knew wasn't correct or verified, yet brought it to the FISA Court and swore several times that it was. The FISA Court has already racked the FBI for how they got the FISA ok'd It's been said that there was (18 mistakes ) in doing this report and the FBI has done this thousands of times. You don't make (18 mistakes) when your trying to get the President impeached. You make sure all your T's are crossed. Yet the FBI had to sign several times that their information was true and verified when they knew at the time that neither was true. I think your going to see a number of people brought up on charges over this. In truth what it was was a political coup.


     
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    Let me also say I think it will be brought out that information was withheld from the FISA court that the phony dossier was bought and paid for by the opposing Party.
     
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    I have also heard roomers that they might open the investigation on Hillary for her destruction of 32,000 E-mails she was suppose to turn over to the FBI. It seems that Comey found her innocent almost two weeks before ever interviewing her and over a dozen witnesses. Looks to me like Comey intending of letting her off so she could run for President. When she was interviewed she lied her butt off.

    Grilling Comey over Hillary's E-mails

     
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    Because the political Left desperately do not want to admit that very nearly everything that the Right said all along in regards to the investigation into Trump and company was correct after all even though the honest ones know this to be true at this point.
     
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    I think Barr is smart enough to see what the Democrats were trying to do that it seems most Democrats are oblivious to. I think ,unlike the Horowitz report, where he had no power to bring witnesses before the court and have them testify under oath, John Durham does have that power and to bring charges. I think Durham has already discussed some of his findings with Barr, which has Barr saying what he has.
     
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    I think you are correct else Barr wouldn't keep remind reporters that it is now a criminal investigation.
     
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    I think Barr is smart enough to see what Trump did, but I think he is loyal enough to Trump to lie about it
     

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