Be tolerant or we will beat you into submission!

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  1. Burz

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    You can only accomplish those by perfecting administration.
     
  2. Right Wing

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    No, you don't have to be tolerant to the intolerant. But, do you see you are saying they don't have the right to force their views on others? The others don't have the right to force physical violence on them. People have the right to force views and people have the right to reject views right up until the point property rights are violated and/or physical force or the threat thereof, or other types of physicality are used.
     
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    You don't have the right to advocate violence.
     
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    Now imagine the two street preachers are muslims and the reaction was, not to beat them but to accuse the prophet of being a liar and a pedophile. This might get strange. Who do you side with?
     
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    Which will never happen.
     
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    No one is asking you to endorse them, just give them the right to exist and to use their right of free speech. He shouldn't have been attacked for an opinion at least not physically. I won't defend the opinion, it's up to you what you think of his opinion, but the answer to speech you don't like is not thuggery, but more speech.

    They actually left Holland because the kids were learning Dutch, and the English parents didn't like that. But what they wanted was to be able to practice their own version of Christianity without interference from the King who had decided that all of England should be forced into the Church of England. They weren't wanting to spread extremism, if they had, they would have stayed in England or Holland preaching to those people rather than leave for the wilderness. If you want to convert people, you need to be around ... people. Unless you think they were going to convert the elk or groundhogs.
     
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    And what if the Priest and several burly members of his flock, disagreeing with what was being said about homo-sexuality, by a LGBT activist, and walked up and punched the activist in the face, ribs, stomach etc.?


    Would it be OK for the good Priest and his flock to silence the damn gay activists by giving them what they deserved?

    Yeah,... I thought you'd say that...

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    freedom of speech is a mother (*)(*)(*)(*)er, even if you disagree with what someone is saying, they have the right to say it. BTW after some facebook stalking it looks like the fat guy is married to someone other then the woman he was with, and I belive the woman he was holding hands with is with a navy guy who is deployed, I really feel like sharing this video with the spouses lol.
     
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    Right Wing, the state is a product of capitalism. The "founding fathers" were land-owners (small capitalists).
    Interruptions in capitalist uptake like recession lead to government regulation (like bailouts) or military coup (fascism) to restore capitalist order, which is what funds the government. The end of government is anarchy and then bad oligarchy and then moderate oligarchy if you are lucky, such as happened in Russia. You can de-regulate and get (military coup). Unless you have a lot of government, and then you get (anarchy) and (bad oligarchy).
     
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    The sign wasn't offensive at all. Bad form gays. Save the angst for the Westboro Baptists.
     
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    What is with that these days? There are a lot of guys willing to cheat with women whose men are overseas. How can people do that (*)(*)(*)(*)? Disgraceful.
     
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    Do you know how you tell the old definition "Liberals" such as JFK, Teddy Roosevelt, or Thomas Jefferson, from the 2013 "Neo- Liberals"?

    You look for the double standards.

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    The gays are not forcing their views on others, they want to be treat as equals, in the same way that black people did.
    You are correct.
    No they do not.
    Society is far more complex than property rights. Society is about harmony, society can only function when we as human beings accept there are differences in us all, differences that we may not agree with but the consequence of fighting against, is greater than the difference itself. Unfortunately herein lies the problem with religion; religious types believe they are acting on behalf of god and therefore are free to act as they like. They are wrong and they are a danger to the harmony required for society to function. It's for this reason I have no sympathy for them, when they get some blowback for their actions.
     
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    I am against anyone shoving their views in my face, especially when they are telling me I'm some kind of sinner. I don't care what religion they are.
     
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    So the next time a group of Leftie activists are feeling "We're Fierce, we're feminist and we're in your face"...

    or perhaps is a Military Funeral that the Leftie activists are disrupting...

    or maybe its outrageous sexual behavior on float in a public parade...

    When its the Lefties being a disruption to the harmony of the occasion,

    I guess we have your permission to beat the (*)(*)(*)(*) outta the Leftie Maggots?!!

    or are we back to typical Leftie double standards?


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    You're not a sinner?! Are you perfect? What is your source of morality?
     
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    Ignored due to ranting idiocy based on the incorrect premise that I'm a leftie.

    If you grow up and post in an adult manner, we can talk.

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    "Sin" is a religious concept, it's there with "evil" in words that sensible people should not use. Nonsetheless, by religious standards, of course I'm a sinner.... I simply hold myself to higher standards that those cherry picked by religious types.
     
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    And you refer to the religious as self righteous?
     
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    Well I'm not going to a church to condemn them... That may be because in the NL, where there is also freedom of speech and religion, that we use them wisely. Religion is predominently kept to churches and people think before they speak. The US is a whole different ball game. You guys need to understand, that regarding freedom of speech, just because you can, does not mean that you should.
     
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    Maybe if those gays were loudly protesting out in front of the "first national church of (*)(*)(*)(*) homosexuals".
     
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    So what?
     
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    Most people dont react well to hate speech. Even if it is protected. And that is what this was.
     

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