Berlin denies "Reagan" Statue to erected on its soil...US have to park it on their embassy

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  1. Thingamabob

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    What nations other than Afghanistan did the USSR invade?
    What nations other than Afghanistan did the U.S. invade?
     
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    Stalin offered a german reunion in 1955. A neutral Germany. USA denied that. So all this is just fake stuff. Eastern Germany could have been free in 1955 but had to wait 35 years longer.

    All this was certainly nothing in german interest.
     
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    Your words make little sense. First you cry because our nations are not that allied anymore, now that?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good for target practice. :machinegun:
     
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    That's right. "The Stalin Note".
     
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    It would have been the end of the world as we know it. Such a war would have likely led to a nuclear exchange between the two sides resulting in global destruction.

    That was another one of the great things I remember about the fall of the Berlin Wall. With every chunk and section that came down so did the likelihood of nuclear annihilation.

    I'm glad those days are over. It's good to know that our children and grandchildren don't have to live with that fear like we did.





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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, we in America have states the size of Germany that hate Trump and do not care one bit about Germany. We have other states where you can find some friends. I am getting reports from you that you do not like America. So my comments are about things said in defense of hating America.
     
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    Jesus Christ, man. The Soviets enslaved half of Europe after WWII.

    Then again, a socialist like you probably viewed it as "liberation". :lol:

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    "YA! Our Soviet friends are here!!!" :woot:

    And who doesn't love a Prague Spring...

     
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    In Berlin the way the city was divided would show more foreign forces than German forces. Frankly in my 15 months being in Germany including Schweinfurt, I can't recall seeing any of the then West German military forces. I saw plenty of evidence of the USA Air force when they came to Schweinfurt testing our missile defenses by flying over the roofs of the city. There were German forces yet don't ask me where they had bases. I do not know. Since I owned two cars at the time, I was able to travel around Germany quite a bit. A major fear of the Soviets is they would arrive in Germany via the Fulda Gap which is great tank warfare country.
     
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    Even in 1963 we had missiles to use in the event of a war around Germany. We had the Hawk Missiles at my location and to give another example, I do not recall the type of missiles but picked up a soldier one day at Pirmasens and he spoke a bit about their missiles since he worked with them. I am sure that by the time of the fall of the wall in Berlin our forces missiles were greatly advanced over those we had in 1963.
     
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    Chancellor Adenauer rejected it, too:

    Only a damned fool would have trusted Joseph Stalin. He had already broken the agreement he made at Yalta in 1945 to allow the people of Eastern Europe to elect their own governments but he installed the puppet regimes that remained in place - sometimes through the use of Soviet military force as in Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968 - until the end of the Cold War.
     
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    Some of the infantry men who served in the US Army with me at the time, (Oct 62 to the end of Jan 64) had escaped communism. Joe Nemeth a name I recall came from Hungary and he told us stories about life as a Communist or wanna be communist in a university in Hungary. He also is why I visited the huge stadium at Nuremberg Germany when we drove there using my car.
     
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    I know that. Adenauer was a traitor to Germany as well. He betrayed his own people. But its what one can expect from an american muppet.
     
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    I dont hate american. You mistake german patriotism for anti americanism. As a german patriot, you cant support a foreign power like USA which is hostile towards Germany. Thats the basic line.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holy smoke. USSR captured and kept many countries we used to call "behind the iron curtain." Some for example are Romania, Czechoslovakia and Poland and Hungary and so forth. We took Europe from the Nazis but not to keep the people as our slaves.
     
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    How was Adenauer a traitor to Germany?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is this the hate against Germany you claim Trump has? And you do not even like Ronald Reagan.

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    Have you ever read this book?

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    It's about the Hungarian uprising in 1956 and it's compiled from the eyewitness accounts of the Hungarians who escaped over the bridge to Austria.

    I read that book when I was young and it was the first glimpse I got of life behind the Iron Curtain. Since I've grown older I've had the good fortune of making friends with some people who lived in the former USSR, Czechoslovakia and communist Bulgaria who told me what it was like to live there and it's nothing I would want to experience. The crybabies in our own country who whine about life in America have no idea just how good they have it here.
     
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    Give me some examples.

    Would you care to support that statement or don't war-mongering Fascists like you prepare yourselves for sensible debate employing logic?

    What do you call the Soviet battles that kicked the Nazis out of eastern Europe if not "liberated"?

    Who doesn't love a Tehran Spring or
    a Havana Spring or
    a Panama City Spring or
    a Santiago Spring or
    a Saigon Spring or
    a Bahgdad Spring or
    a Saint George Spring or
    a Guatemala City Spring or
    an El Salvador Spring or
    a Managua Spring or
    a San José Spring or
    a Caracas Spring or
    a Tripoli Spring or
    a Kabul Spring or
    a Damascus Spring or .... shall I go on?
     
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    I haven't read that book but I did read "The Drifters" by the same author and if this book is a childish as that one then it belongs on the shelves alongside this one .....

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    Exactly. Adenauer was an American lap dog.
     
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    So, you have no idea how those nations became post-WW II Communist nations? My god! You know absolutely nothing about Europe at all.
     
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    You know nothing. Adenauer would have been a fool to trust a ruthless mass murderer who had already broken his promises at Yalta and enslaved half of Europe and he would have been a traitor to his own people if he had allowed West Germany to wind up like East Germany.
     
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    Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Poland, Germany, Estonia, Bellarus, Latvia, Finland etc...
     

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