Bernie Sanders attacks Christian nominee of Trump

The Gospels are full of comments on Jesus doing this and that "so that prophesy will be fulfilled". IMO he was a real person who did what he had to do fulfill prophesy.

IMO the effort was made to help people in the Mideast become more civilized. Muslims and Jews resisted the message, but the West embraced it. The rest is history.

 

Sorry but there's no chance I get to be the bigot here while the most prominent ones include themselves in that NOBODY...

 

The Gospels are full of sh.it about Jesus doing this and that "so that the fairy-tale's deal will be fulfilled". IMO he was a real joke who did what he had to do fulfill the deal of the fairy-tale.

IMO the effort was made to screw people in the Mideast become more vandalized. Muslims and Jews resisted the vandalism, but the West embraced it. The rest is history.

 

Everyone is a bigot to some degree. The whites hate the blacks, the blacks hate the Mexicans, the Chinese hate the Japanese, the Japanese hate the Koreans, the Koreans hate the Chinese, the Christians hate the Jews, the Jews hate the Muslims, the Muslims hate everyone, everyone hates the atheists, the atheists hate the faithful, the conservatives hate the liberals, the liberals hate the libertarians, the libertarians hate the authoritarians, the authoritarians hate the neocons, the neocons hate the antifa, the anfitfa hate the alt-right, and I hate anyone who thinks my life is any of their *********king ******n business. The whole world is just one big hateful ****fest. So, as I stated, if you kick the bigots off the board, there will no board left. I say we keep the bigots.

 

Biography John Keane
This view of democracy and early Islam was also one presented in a BBC trilogy on the Life Of Muhammed

 

There is a question mark in the title so suppose it must have been very early Islam.

Did you know that early Muslims also discovered America and built a Mosque in Cuba? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...scovered-america-erdogan-christopher-columbus

 

Well, that's your bias, and the mode of expression certainly gives credence to my point.

 

I put that in under your quote simply because you had brought it up. I do know you are not here to learn or genuinely debate but more to piss take and spread your propaganda. You just want your opinion and someone else's and want to keep well clear of experts who spend years studying things. They seem to be a threat to you. Hence although I am going to answer your post, I have no interest in your reply as I know it will mean nothing.

So to answer for you the first bit as you brought it up. You are unaware that people post things on Youtube including parts of lectures and add their own little bit. That bit does not say too much and the question mark is presumably just to alert viewers it is a possibility. OK off you go and have a cuppa.

Democracy first began in what is now Iran and Iraq. This can even be seen by the root of the word. It began in these areas before Islam was even invented through assemblies of equals meeting together and deciding what should be done. In these societies Kings were elected and commoners attended and took part in the decision making., laws and what not. This eventual spread to the East to Pakistan and to the West to Venice and Ancient Greece who claimed it as their own and a sign that they were more advanced than the barbarians of the East from whence it came.

In the West we report the dark ages where nothing was supposed to have happened. This was the age when Muslim's were busy having their enlightenment discovering things which we still use now like algebra and founding the first Universities and so on.

What Islam did was make additions to this early democracy which made it pretty much what we recognise as democracy today. Islam added to the assemblies or direct democracy a form of civil society, Institutions, non governmental institutions which served as a break on concentrated power, the importance of law was recognised and made independent of Government with experts in that area, they engaged in long consultations on how power could be controlled so that it was not totalitarian and so on. In other words what Islam introduced was the checks and balances we all now know.

Just like we pretended that nothing was happening in the dark ages we have chosen to forget the massive input that Islam had to democracy centuries before it was thought of in the West. In other words we have a perverted sense of the history of Islam.

You can find JK talking about this on Youtube in
John Keane the History of Democracy and Islam.

 

OK... Although generalization of societal hateful acts of some has nothing to do with religious bigotry, which's the subject matter here, I give credit to your point of view... Under only one condition tho: Whatever causes the white guilt should be eliminated... Deal?

 

No, that is wrong,

"The word democracy literally means "rule by the people." It is derived from a Greek word coined from the words demos ("people") and kratos ("rule") in the middle of the 5th century BC as a name for the political system that existed at the time in some of the cities of Greece, notably Athens".

If 'it began in those areas before Islam was even invented' how did Muslims invent democracy?

They did not found the first universities. The first University was in Greece some 300 or more years before Jesus Christ. and a thousand years before Mohammed. Also Algebra existed long before Islam - in Greece and in India.

If any of this was true Islam might have contributed something to the world rather than what we see now. So.what happened? Maybe it's time for Muslims to go back to this period, rediscover all these values they once held, and have a sort of Renaissance. Then we might have some peace.

But our sense of modern Islam is quite clear. It is backward, brutal and a force against human enlightenment. You have never presented anything positive to say about Iskam today, only now claiming that it had a glorious past, often before Islam even existed.

Thank you. I find all of these claims to be rather sad, not funny as I first thought, but will have a look.

 

I like your scholarly approach to the subject. Where did you study?

|And an interesting opinion it is. Do you have any facts for support?

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Hey Dick Tracy, that was actually a sarcastic response to Merwen. He got that, but you didn't. Sorry...

 

Forgive me. Sometimes it's difficult to tell where sarcasm ends and idiocy begins.

The names Dobbs. Fred C Dobbs.

 

Whatever Dopes... If that line in between sarcasm and idiocy was that thin, believe me you'd be promoting to a sarcastic user in no time... Have you? No, because they are at the opposite ends... Capiche?

 

Beginning to enjoy your sarcasm. Keep it up!

 

And, presumably to eliminate any such squabbling over the term "Islamophobic", followed up by asking Vought if he thought what he had written was respectful of the many other groups whose beliefs similarly didn't mesh with his own. In other words, Bernie clearly didn't give a crap about Islam in particular. He cared about everyone being treated with fairness and respect should this guy be appointed to represent their interests, not just those of the thankfully few Christians he felt most comfortable with.

That's the ideal maybe, certainly not the reality. As a nation we impose our beliefs on others everywhere, all day long, year after year. And by "force" in many forms, in exchange for them never doing anything comparable in scale. We bully the entire planet and pretty much the entire world has grown sick of it, not just some from the Middle East. But never mind the entire world. In many ways, "we" forcefully impose "our" stupid beliefs upon "our" own citizens, all day long, year after year. Criminalizing marijuana use and drug abuse instead of treating it like a disease. Locking up a disgusting percentage of our Black population for behaving no different with respect to our laws than our White population, and so on.

We seemingly have the ability to believe anything. We do not possess some magical ability to prevent others having thoughts different from our own. So having a right to believe anything is just a ludicrous notion. We would do it regardless. Now, do we have the right in this nation to practice our religion as long as we are not physically hurting others? No, of course not. Forget yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, imagine you're a Jehovah's Witness. You and your buddies drive over to your neighbor's house to exchange niceties and drop off a bit of your innocent, little "YOU'RE DAMNED TO HELL!" propaganda. Problem: Your neighbor happens to be David Koch - you'd need military equipment just to get past the front gate. Problem: your neighbor has a huge rottweiler guarding the door and nobody seems anxious to greet you otherwise. Problem: Immediately upon pulling into your neighbor's driveway, you can't miss seeing a sign posted "PRIVATE PROPERTY - all Jehovah's Witnesses shot on sight."

In practice, what we have a "right to in this nation" is to impose our will upon others in accordance with our skin color, private property, wealth, and combined cultural/professional status.

 

Your post is full of leftist hate and blood
.Who is 'bigot' decided by liberals.
All 'bigots' must be killed, at best millions of them, or probably a little bit more: hundred of millions like other leftists already performed in Vietnam, Russia, Nazi Germany, China, Venezuela, Cuba etc. etc. etc.
Only a dead bigot is a good bigot, right?
I have a better solution:
An international tribunal shall judge crimes committed by leftists-liberals beginning from 1917 Russia.
And than the remaining leftists shall be send to prisons or lunatic asylums, as punishment for hundred millions killed by liberals innocent victims.

And moron Sanders shall be charged at first.

 

^Haters gonna hate. Loopy and boooooorrrring!

Like minded idiots, FYI, I'm no communist. Far, far from it. I'm not even an anti-capitalist. I favor social programs and reforms similar to those proven to work in the past such as Social Security, Medicare for all, community hospitals, fire & police, schools, national highway systems, and so forth. If you can't be bothered to research a bit before blathering so stupidly, I suggest you take all that misguided hatred and choke on it. Where we likely differ most starkly is where it comes to supporting small business, actual freedom, and fair as opposed to "free" trade. I'm probably far more supportive of those things than you are in your wildest imaginings. Care to compare your record of accomplishments on those fronts against mine? Didn't think so. Wimps. Bark, bark, bark. All you ever do.

 

Dude please don't break my heart with that cool sarcastic tude.

Do we have a chance to turn this sh.itty system around and get every single individual living on the planet earth the opportunity to have at least an average education which alters their way of thinking and at the same time broadens and enlightens their general perspectives on perceptual issues like politics and stuff, so that the source of bigotry -the ignorance- be gotten rid of? Do we???