Bernie the communist

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  1. FatBack

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    Communist are not terribly open about their agenda, asides from "free college", taxes and regulations will save the planet, etc what platform does he even present?
     
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    That's true. Those labels have been misused for so long that they really don't have much meaning anymore.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Answer the question - "what "communist reforms" is Bernie trying to implement"

    And you still have not addressed the fact that Trump is more socialist than Sanders.
     
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    Jake Starkey does not understand that socialism is socialism and none other than Lenin stated the goal of socialism IS communism.
     
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    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/democratic-socialism

    Nah your ain't got it right. It is the top of the slippery slope towards socialism. NO thanks.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly - most people when they cry "Socialism" have no clue what they are talking about. I have spent numerous posts trying to explain to one poster that "wealth redistribution" - via taxes and other things - is Socialism.
     
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    How is it undermining “ my” economy if I pay half as much for persecution drugs and if I’m on Medicare, I pay fking $250 less per month for 20% coverage.....all which reduces everyone else payroll tax burden to an amount less then they pay for premiums. Even conservative Heritage said Bernie’s plan will save a Trillion over the next ten years. Hysterical hiw facts are less important then labels. You’d rather have no insurance and die early but call yourself a what ? A dead capitalist ? Move to New Hampshire. I’ll be a live democratic capitalist - socialist...
     
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    And giving huge tax breaks to the rich, is corporate socialism. Which should the middle class be....poor corporate socialists, or better off democratic socialists ?
     
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    If done properly - Universal healthcare would save 1.75 Trillion dollars per year - and 17 Trillion over 10 years.
     
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    He loves preaching about the evils of wealth and he's all about wealth redistribution. That's enough for me to call him what he is. He also supports employee ownership.
     
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    Ironically, if the DNC functioned like the democracy that our political leftists pretend to worship then they would have no choice but to award Bernie with the nomination; but everyone -- including those very same leftists if they were being honest -- already know that the corrupt DNC has got absolutely no intention of seeing Socialist/Marxist Bernie square off against uber-capitalistic Trump. Our political leftists will therefore either pretend -- again -- that the methods that the DNC will use to subvert the course of democracy are perfectly legitimate OR they will pretend that no such thing is happening . . . right before their very eyes.
     
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    That it is. Some folks seem to think that wealth redistribution - via taxation - is not socialism when the money goes to programs they like - and Socialism when the money goes to programs they don't like - a belief that is raging tom foolery.
     
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    Free college is no more free then public high hool. You want to eliminate public highschool ?
    Cause to get a good paying job now, college now is as important as HS used to be.
     
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    Even if done as poor as the worse “ anyother” free nation, it saves money....bigly.
     
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    How is that comparable to communism during the USSR ? Trump also supports wealth redistribution - even more so than Bernie. Does that make Trump a Stalinist style commie as well ?
     
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    Imo, he’s an autocrat who wants to be “ uhchained”, pretty much like the apartheid styled Republican Party .
     
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    Socialist, communist, divine leader, savior of the planet.... Just for grins we'll call him whatever you like. Face it though, he will never be elected president, not of this country anyway.
     
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    Sure, because the economy is nothing more than prescription prices. So whatever came of this?
    www.fda.gov › news-events › press-announcements › trump-administ...

    Trump Administration takes historic steps to lower U.S. ... - FDA

    Dec 18, 2019 - The Trump Administration is taking steps to lower prescription drug prices by proposing a rule that could allow for the importation of certain ...
     
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    Exactly - which is why Trump is a bigger Socialist than Sanders on this issue. Trump is for the status quo = maintain the 3.5 Trillion dollar spend. UHC is done in other first world nations at half the cost of what we pay.

    A reduction in this spend is a reduction in Socialism.
     
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    Label anyone "a Witch" if you like but, that does not make it true.
     
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    Of course, public school are tax funded. Mostly, colleges are not. So his plan is to eliminate a person paying tuition and make everyone else pay. Classic wealth redistribution, yet another example.
     
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    Communism is not defined by what nation practiced it. Communist love railing against the wealthy.

    How so?
     
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    Love the Hitler reference which means you lost.
     
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    Bernie may end up with about 30% of the democrat base, max. Buttigig and Bloomberg will make up the remainder, not equally.
     
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    Communism is often defined by the nations that practice it - you for example were using the USSR as an example of communism.

    What do policies under the USSR have to do with policies that Sanders want's to implement.

    Indeed they do - and rightly so in some cases.


    You were the one that was saying that wealth redistribution happened under Stalin - a true statement. The problem was when you tried to claim that any form of wealth redistribution was USSR style communism - in which case that makes Trump a USSR style communist.
     

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