Beware of "Judicial Watch"

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Actually, that has been Judicial Watch's primary mission for twenty years.
     
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    What does this have to do with a budget?
     
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    Do you realize how difficult it is to win a libel suit in the US? As I said all you really need is their last fund raising letter, and there last Press release.
     
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    When the truth is your defense? Not hard at all.

    Please find for us a single instance where SPLC has done anything even remotely similar to what Judicial Watch did to Acorn. Just one is all we need.
     
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    So you're claiming that Snopes was wrong and JW was correct that there were ISIS members caught crossing the Texas border?

    I think you just made OUR argument for us
     
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    Exactly. And that's what conservatives DON'T do. I've "walked it back and checked the links" for garbage that was sourced to Breitbart and Infowars and they always seem to link to themselves, each other, or Russia Today.

    THAT is how they fall for Fake News so often
     
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    I doubt they were caught . Who was checking?
     
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    And every time it turns out that they're spewing made up BS, they go right back to the same sources for more BS.
     
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    Like rooster just did.

    This was fake news start to finish. NO ISIS fighters...just pure BS from JW
     
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    Slam dunk, just peruse their "hate group" list.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups

    Note that there's no "hate" in lots of these groups, just conservative or anti-left politics. SPLC does what the left does daily here and elsewhere, call everyone who is not the left racist, sexist, xenophobe, hateful, etc. For example, it's never that people have a reasonably based belief in less immigration into their country, it's that they -hate- immigrants. It's not that people object to pornography or lewdness on television, they -hate- free speech and sex.

    1. Fabricate a hate group list.
    2. In addition to the tiny number of real hateful groups in the US, put your political opposition on it.
    3. As part of the litigation process, to press easy settlement or poison juries, cloud issues, try to get their inclusion on your hate group list admitted, mentioned, reported by your union label thugs in the local press. A good judge would never allow it, but we have -lots- of partisan left judges out there.

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/0...d-from-a-govt-agency-that-might-surprise-you/

    Take my word for it, or don't, litigating against "hate groups" is BIG BUSINESS, and slandering groups that have been deemed hate groups but aren't is also.

    Have posted it many times here, a huge chunk of the LW narrative in the US, regardless of what "social issue" it is ostensibly addressing, is actually a trough for plaintiff's attorneys, possibly the most powerful interest within the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex. Voters are unaware of the extent to which trial lawyers control politics towards self-enrichment. Most of the LW/Democrat/union label lie narratives coincidentally enrich lawyers seeking to conduct easy settlement litigation. That's right lefties, when you vote Democrat, you are -squarely- and indubitably in bed with TV lawyers. Feelz good?
     
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    They attack moderate republicans. They attack those in the party who oppose or simply do not share their views. They do their best to cover up anything that harms the far right.

    They especially go after Libertarians. They were one of the driving forces in the GOP's demonization of Ron Paul in 2012, ironically costing Romney the election, since the almost all Libtarian republicans wrote Paul in, rather than voting for Romney, and Romney lost the general election by less votes than he won the primary.
     
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    Why don't you post the JW border story so we can all read it.
     
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    Sorry Acorn did that to themselves.
     
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    ACORN corruption in Baltimore - who'd have thunk it ...
    talk.baltimoresun.com › NewsLocal News
    ... ACORN corruption in ... It has been proven that most of their voter registrations ... The AG should begin Rico investigations against ACORN as a criminal ...
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    Congressional ACORN Corruption Probe Disbanded by “Powers ...
    www.floppingaces.net/2009/06/26/congressional-acorn-corruption...
    Congressional ACORN Corruption Probe Disbanded by “Powers that Be” ... President O’Dumbo has proven he learned criminal political activities well in Chicago.
     
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    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/new-poll-and-stealing-democracy/

    Interesting claim. I only find the above when googling, which doesn't support it. What is your source for the claim?

    @thread generally, the more I look into judicial watch, the more I like it... as an atheist, pro abortion, pro legalization classical liberal. Here they are disagreeing with a Trump policy, first link clicked on their page:

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...ision-keep-secret-names-white-house-visitors/
     
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    SPLC is a radical leftist hate group. It spreads hate throughout America.

    According to the SPLC if you didn't vote for Obama in 2008...you are a racist.

    If you didn't support the ACA (Obamacare)... you are a racist.

    If you have a problem with secured borders and enforcing the immigration laws of the land that are on the books,... you are a racist.

    If you don't defend MS-13 or 18th Street gangs...you are a racist.

    The SPLC gets rich from stupid people who donate money to the hate mongering SPLC.
     
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    No, the entire ACORN thing was a right wing smear campaign. Ironically, a number of GOP organizations including the RNC itself, have been caught doing exactly the same thing they attacked ACORN for.
     
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    Evidence to support those claims? Oh, that's right, you made it up!
     
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    Sorry but comments boards and posts in unreliable right wing trash blogs do not make a convincing argument, or provided evidence of anything.
     
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    All you have to do would have been reading the SPLC blogs for the past twenty years.

    It's not my job to inform the low information people in America.

     
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    Yeah and I've already linked specific examples and evidence for the claims you made to boot, the poster knows that full well. Typical MO for that one. It's like they forget anyone can read the thread and see exactly what was posted. Doesn't matter, they dissimulate anyway, fascinating in a way.
     
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    ACORN: History, Activities, and Agendas

    ACORN is a grassroots political organization that grew out of George Wiley's National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO). (For additional details on NWRO, see the separate database entries for George Wiley and the Cloward-Piven Strategy.) In the late 1960s, ACORN founder Wade Rathke was a protegé of Wiley and a NWRO organizer. Rathke also organized draft resistance for the militant group Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) during the same period.

    In 1970, Wiley sent Rathke to Little Rock, Arkansas to begin organizing NWRO chapters in the South. By that time, Wiley - an African-American - was coming under attack by black militants who opposed his policy of placing whites such as Rathke in leadership positions.

    Sensing that his days at NWRO were numbered, Rathke formed a new organization in 1970 called Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). The name was later changed to Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, but the acronym ACORN remained the same. In keeping with George Wiley's original vision, Rathke gave ACORN a wider mission than that of the NWRO. Instead of focusing only on welfare recipients, ACORN would work on issues touching all low-income and working-class people.

    ACORN grew rapidly. Today it claims 175,000 dues-paying member families, and more than 850 chapters in 70 U.S. cities. "It boasts two radio stations, a housing corporation, a law office, and affiliate relationships with a host of trade-union locals," wrote Sol Stern in the Spring 2003 issue of City Journal. In the same article, Stern pointed out that ACORN also runs schools where children are trained in class warfare; a network of "boot camps" for training street activists; and shake-down operations that extort money from banks and other businesses under threat of racial violence and trumped-up civil rights charges.

    In 1998, ACORN founded the Working Families Party in New York, which cross-endorses candidates for political office. It endorsed Hillary Clinton in her 2000 Senate race. Canvassers from ACORN and its sister groups launched a statewide voter-mobilization drive that proved influential in Clinton's victory. Of the 3.4 million popular votes Mrs. Clinton received from New Yorkers, some 103,000 were cast on the Working Families Party line.

    In November 2001, a coalition of radical politicians led by ACORN-sponsored candidates running on the Working Families Party ticket won a veto-proof majority on the New York City Council, giving ACORN de facto control of the New York City government.

    With little opposition from Republicans or moderate Democrats - and very little press coverage - ACORN radicals pushed laws tightening their control over New York City government and stripping the Mayor of executive power. Their current platform calls for a rollback of former Mayor Giuliani's welfare reforms; a crackdown on the New York City police, including a ban on "racial and ethnic profiling"; and the appointment of a politicized Civilian Review Board newly empowered to prosecute police officers. ACORN also seeks to use its influence to raise corporate taxes, increase regulation, and empower unions with a battery of new rights. But corporations will be forbidden to escape ACORN's legislative assault by pulling up stakes and going elsewhere. No corporation will be permitted to leave New York without an "exit visa" from the City Council.

    On March 12, 2003, the ACORN-controlled City Council passed a resolution, by a 31-17 margin, condemning the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Thanks to a virtual press blackout on the resolution, most New Yorkers today are unaware that their City Council ever passed such a measure.

    In the 2004 election cycle, ACORN and its sister group Project Vote ran a nationwide voter mobilization drive for George Soros' Shadow Party. The drive was marred by numerous allegations of fraudulent voter registration, vote-rigging, voter intimidation, and vote-for-pay scams.

    ACORN drew national attention during the 2004 election campaign, when its get-out-the-vote activists were implicated in numerous reports of voter fraud, especially in the swing states of Ohio, Colorado, Missouri Pennsylvania, New Mexico, and Minnesota. Election crimes allegedly perpetrated by activists from ACORN and from its front group Project Vote included, but were limited to, the following:

    • Falsifying thousands of voter registration forms, either by registering the same person multiple times or by registering deceased or imaginary people

    • Hiring canvassers to collect registration forms from Democratic voters, while destroying those of Republican voters

    Registering convicted felons, even in states where felons are ineligible to vote

    Longtime observers of ACORN were not surprised to see this organization surface at the epicenter of vote-tampering schemes. These reports barely hint at the full range of corrupt activities in which ACORN has indulged. From its inception, ACORN has worked hand-in-hand with corrupt labor unions, and its tactics closely resemble those employed by labor racketeers.

    Presenting itself as a vehicle for "community organizing" of poor and working-class people, ACORN enriches itself through an array of money-making methods ranging from Jesse Jackson-style corporate shakedowns to fraudulent solicitation of federal grants - schemes which, in many cases, exploit the very people ACORN claims to be helping.

    Former ACORN members and other leftist critics often describe ACORN as a cult - a movement which exploits its own members while demanding of them a fanatical, quasi-religious devotion. "They're a curious cult, that's what ACORN is," comments Bob Bland, a self-described peace activist and solar architect who has worked with ACORN on specific projects. "ACORN carefully selects issues to build its name. It won't coalesce with other groups."

    In response to ACORN's shabby treatment of employees, the ultra-radical Industrial Workers of the World declared in a bulletin, "We charge that ACORN . . . leadership constitutes a cult that is disconnected from the needs of their own workers."

    Dorothy Perkins, former state ACORN chairman for Arkansas, has accused ACORN of being "one of the biggest scams in Arkansas." She told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette that the group is "run like a Jim Jones cult." (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette [Little Rock], September 2, 1987) ...

    continue -> http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/acornhistory.html
     
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    I guess that Baltimore Sun, or NY Times don't count when reported by real journalists? Dale Rathke, brother of Wade Rathke . The apples don't fall far from the tree.

    Acorn Offices in New Orleans Are Raided - The New York Times
    www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/us/07acorn.html
    Nov 06, 2009 · Acorn Offices in New Orleans ... Continue reading the main ... said investigators wanted “virtually every document in the possession of Acorn ...
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    ACORN Admits to Embezzlement Scandal; Founder Steps Down ...
    nlpc.org/.../28/acorn-admits-embezzlement-scandal-founder-steps-down
    ACORN Admits to Embezzlement Scandal; Founder Steps Down. ... Dale Rathke continued to collect a $38,000 ... Even if Wade Rathke and his cronies aren’t indicted, ...
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    Dead wrong of course.
     
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