Biden: ‘We Have to Take Care of the Cure — That Will Make the Problem Worse No Matter What’

Likely because most on the left think the same about those on the Right. Almost to a T.

 

We know how Biden would be handling this....from his work in the Obama Admin, where they used up nearly the entire stockpile of mask, and never restocked it...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-was-depleted-under-obama-and-never-restocked

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The George W. Bush administration published the National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza plan in 2005, which called on the federal government to distribute medical supplies from the Strategic National Stockpile governed by the Health and Human Services Department in the event of an outbreak.

In 2009, the H1N1 outbreak hit the United States, leading to 274,304 hospitalizations, 12,469 deaths, and a depletion of N95 respirator masks.

A federally backed task force and a safety equipment organization both recommended to the Obama administration that the stockpile be replenished with the 100 million masks used after the H1N1 outbreak.

Charles Johnson, president of the International Safety Equipment Association, said that advice was never heeded."

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The George W. Bush administration published the National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza plan in 2005, which called on the federal government to distribute medical supplies from the Strategic National Stockpile governed by the Health and Human Services Department in the event of an outbreak.

In 2009, the H1N1 outbreak hit the United States, leading to 274,304 hospitalizations, 12,469 deaths, and a depletion of N95 respirator masks.

A federally backed task force and a safety equipment organization both recommended to the Obama administration that the stockpile be replenished with the 100 million masks used after the H1N1 outbreak.

Charles Johnson, president of the International Safety Equipment Association, said that advice was never heeded."

-Do not let this man anywhere near the Oval Office.....

 

Provide specific lies by the Republicans. Conservatives don't have a fleet of "Useful Idiots" running around believing and spreading lies on a regular basis. We are actually critical of Trump on a regular basis, but are not throwing the baby our with the bath water. Establishment Democrats live on a platform of lies and a desire for America to do poorly, so they can push Big Government spending, power, and control.

 

Why? So you can do what Fox and the Cons do as well as the Left? spin spin spin. Every one of your bullet points has an ocean of context behind them distorting the overall situation behind each, making your attempts to drill them down to single sentences completely wasted.

There is decades of evidence of contextless statements, half-truths, and outright lies from the Republicans (and the Dems). I'm not going to waste time trying to copy and paste half of the internet just for you to dismiss, downplay, or deflect it.

Simply put: saying that any political party is devoid of lies is the biggest pile of dinosaur dung this side of Jurassic Park. That you need this proven to you shows a complete lack of understanding of the reality of the political world as it exists, and has existed for a long time.

 

That's what I thought. Continue on with your partisan rants.

 

lolol right. If that's all you saw, those blinders have fallen over your eyes. Enjoy your reality. Hopefully it meets up with the rest of ours someday.

 

Well gee, let's see ... a stalled economy going into its second month or whatever it's been. Deaths of thousands of Americans. They originated the virus, and they let it loose on the world.

Beyond that, a deeply corrupt, totally disfunctional democrat party seditious enough to be prosecuted, except that the entire congress is about as corrupt.

And you defend them.



What is your problem? Spell it out. Who are you to ask that?

 

Bidens decline is getting worse...

 

So China invented the Virus ? you know for a fact that they created the Virus ?

Yeah, the dems are seditious for wanting to hold the government accountable for money, except for the fact that you say the repubs are just as seditious ? FTR, I'm not defending the democrats, I'm defending what they did in this instance. We had a 1 trillion $$$ deficit last year, and congress wants to spend $2 trillion more that we dont have. None of them have a fiscal bone in their body until they are in the minority party

My problem is that we're not helping the working man, we're going to give business' and corporate America another infusion of money in the HOPES that they will "trickle it down".

Im not defending any party. I defend or chide actions.

 

Tarp and Obama taking over GM and Chrysler apples and oranges. Obama didn't just give money to GM and Chrysler had bought a HUGE chunk of their stock, dictated terms to the board and play boy industrialist and cost the taxpayers billions and engaged in unfair competition with the other auto manufacturers and auto workers. And it didn't work and cost the taxpayers BILLIONS. Those SPECIFIC companies who were in the positions they were because of bad management, high labor cost, outdated factories and noncompetitive products should have gone through a bankruptcy with someone coming in and taking over and cutting or selling the divisions that were non-profitable and building up the rest. GM and Chrysler were NOT the "Auto Industry" and Obama did not save the "Auto Industry". And I opposed the talk from Bush as to whether he should have done something. And yes we were on the verge of a collapse of our economy system which the government regulates in 2008 , Bush's TARP, the bridge loans, kept the banks and lenders liquid so they could work their way through and it was all paid back with interest and before it was due.

That's what we need to do now, get business small and large through this, keep them liquid and those jobs ready for the workers when we get through this. Socialising everything, a goal to see how many people we can put on government subsistence for months if not years is NOT the way to go. One of the mistakes Obama made was expanding welfare and benefits so much that workers didn't want to get off and go back to work. The success of the Gingrich/Kasich economy and the Bush/Republican in the mid 2000's was getting people off welfare and back into the workforce. Instead of being a government expense they became taxpayers.

 

And I didn't agree with Bush bailing out GM as I said but the Obama bought them and played boy industrialist and it cost us billions. We lost billions on the stockdeal.

Ahhhhhh
Treasury sells rest of GM stock, ends bailout with $10.5-billion Loss
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mo-general-motors-bailout-treasury-stock-20131209-story.html

That was NOT TARP. TARP worked.

And ahhhhh

It's official: GM files for bankruptcy protection
— -- General Motors' bankruptcy is part of a "viable, achievable plan that will give this iconic company a chance to rise again," President Obama said after GM GM filed for bankruptcy early Monday, launching a complicated, $59 billion effort to save it from collapse.

Obama said he hopes the firm would emerge quickly from bankruptcy court, and said the government is ready to commit an additional $30 billion to help the company get on its feet.

The move is part of a risky gambit by the White House to shrink the American icon — once considered a symbol of economic might and dynamism — to a sustainable size and give a majority ownership stake to the federal government.

Chrysler's bankruptcy, also financed by the U.S. Treasury, has been widely seen as a test run for the much bigger and more complex reorganization of GM.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7725901&page=1

You have now posted TWO fallacious statements about the Obama fiasco

What Obama did playing the boy industrialist was create and unfair competition against all the other companies manufacturing autos and truck and all those workers whose tax dollars was by the government to prop up the people they compete against. One of the reasons GM is no where near the company it once was because those other companies and workers out competed them. They build better cars and at better price. Bush and Obama should have stayed out of it and let the market take care of it. But Obama topped Bush in spades with what he did almost nationalizing to companies and it cost us billions.

 

That's going to be a BIG ISSUE I hope after we get through this and I hope the world bands together to DEMAND accountability by China. The entire rest of the world should demand an immediate change in their leadership and an opening of their government not just for us but for their own people and stop the oppression of the people and allow free and open elections in a transparent government. The doctors and scientist should be allowed to testify without repercussions in a world hearing as to who made what decisions about what information they could release to the WHO and the rest of the world. Those involved on the medical and government levels who direct them to cover up should be called to a world court of some kind if China itself does not hold the proper people accountable.

 

Democrats are not accountable for anything. Half of them should be in prison, and you know it.

 

It really is concerning that you need to have the obvious spelled out for you...

 

You are literally making things up. Is fascinating to watch

So when Bush bailed them out with no guarantees or any payback, that was OK, but when Obama gave them money (that he was required to by the TARP legislation signed by BUSH), he was bad ? You cant make this **** up with a team of writers. Obama gets terms and conditions and stock in the company to make sure taxpayers get something back for their investment (actually all of it was recovered), and hes the bad guy.

Nobody is arguing the position of the companies when they were on the verge of bankruptcy. But your position is that when Bush gave them no strings attached "bridge loans" that was good., but when Obama administered those loans, he was bad. Obama didn't give them anything. BUSH gave it all to them via TARP. Obama only administered the loans. FFS man. You're obviously debating something you know absolutely nothing about.

Obama got us paid back with that stock. The original money given to them by Bush had no strings attached and you know that. The you go on to rant about how badly GM was managed, and then support Bush's no strings approach, while slamming Obama for getting at least some guarantees. Make up your mind........is getting paid back good or bad ?

 

FFS...IT WAS ALL TARP MONEY !!!!!!

Buh bye !

 

And so should republicans.....and your point is ?

 

So your rebuttal is "I got nothin"....kk

 

BWAHAHAHAHA ...! Which Republicans? Hmm? I'm talking about the entire democrat contingent in Congress. Who are you talking about?

 

You made two glaring fallacious statements and the money was extracted from the money targeted for TARP but was not part of the TARP program and thanks to Obama cost the tax payer hundreds of billions of dollars as opposed to Bush's Tarp on which we made money.

 

You whine and piss and moan when people ignore what the left says, yet you are equally dismissive of what the right says.

You are the very definition of a hypocrite...

 

I've backed everything I have said and totally rebutted your two main claims so don't talk about me making things up when you did out of whole cloth. Bush was offering LOANS, which would have been paid back. Obama tossed that aside and decided to play boy industrialist buy up HUGE chunks of stock issuing directives on the company and it cost the taxpayers billions as I showed and you fallaciously claimed otherwise. And GM STILL went bankrupt your fallacious claim otherwise notwithstanding.

Are you ready to withdraw those specious claims now?

 

Otherwise ???

I would prefer to ask, "What have you done to convince us that you have changed your pro-Chinese track record?"

 

That has been the Progressive Elite excuse pattern all along. Convince stupid people that there are valid reasons why they need to treat the bottom 95% like crap most of the time.

 

Every one of them